FOS: Stands for "Free Operating System" as an inclusive term. Includes GNU/Linux, NonGNU/Linux, *BSD that are meant to liberate ones computing.

I'll start, I use Linux Mint on my laptop that I use for work daily. It uses the latest Xanmod linux kernel and flatpaks for apps with GNU Guix providing everything else.

    • jaeme
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      9 months ago

      I wouldn't count MacOS as BSD variant if that's what you mean since the goal of MacOS is control the user with nonfree software (and locked down and soldered hardware). There's also a complicated techical history of the modern macOS system with redesigns and whatnot.

      Most GNU/Linux distros offer nonfree software, but as a compatability request from users rather than seeking control.

      I was more thinking along the lines of FreeBSD and OpenBSD.

      • farting_weedman [none/use name]
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        9 months ago

        I understand what you mean, but it’s not a bsd variant, it’s literally bsd in a deeper and more fundamental way than any of the 3.0(? I don’t remember my history perfectly) spinoffs.

        I would also push back on the idea that the bsds were ever about liberating one’s computing to begin with since their more permissive license famously stood in opposition to the “viral” licenses, but that’s kinda semantics.

        Edit: for posterity, I had macos’ relationship with bsd and Unix confused. Macos is still a bsd variant(4.4), but Unix is the thing it is that nearly nothing else is.

        • jaeme
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          9 months ago

          That's just licensing, the two distros I just mentioned (especially OpenBSD) pride themselves on great user control and simplicity.

          Even with permissive licenses, the intent is still to regain control. It just wastes an opportunity to safeguard those freedoms with copyleft. Permissive licenses are a valid strategy for things like proprietary file formats where one wants to be able to displace the proprietary version. It's just a wasted opportunity in other situations.

          • farting_weedman [none/use name]
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            9 months ago

            replies in netbsd

            Seriously though, plenty of the oses that get lumped in with debian and the eff are just not. The bsd licenses for example allowed stuff like selling it unchanged with your own logo, or using a dongle or cryptographic lock to enforce your own payment schedule.

            Anyway, I’m not trying to start a fight or drag a fight from a thirty year old newsgroup over here, it’s mainly a semantic point that obviously I know what you mean, but some of the stuff we both understand and accept as being in that category are explicitly not.

            I also looked at the flowchart and while macos is bsd (4.4!), what I was conflating was its bsd-ness and it’s much more unique nowadays Unix 03-ness.

            Per rfc827649, cheers goes here.

            • jaeme
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              9 months ago

              Good semantics argument. Honestly I was testing out this whole new FOS acronym to be more generic and a solution to "FOSS" while still having the benefit of being an easy acronym.