mean just gotta look at their stances on LGBTQ issues or climate change
They walked that back a decade ago.
Thing is it wouldn't be as bad if it didn't draw a similar fandom as Rick and Morty
You can find plenty of cringe in every fandom.
No, Avatar was lightning in a bottle for them they've been unable to replicate
It's a very classic Hero's Journey and thick with liberal tropes. Popularity-wise it was a struggle to reproduce in large part because everyone was reproducing it. As soon as they tried to extend the themes of the original, people got mad because it wasn't their original cast doing the original story.
The episodes on transgender athletes would say otherwise on them "walking it back a decade ago", also ngl fash and fash adjacent always have a habit of "oh it's just a joke BRO, I'm sorry I hurt your feeling for realsies" as they backpeddle when attitudes change.
You can find plenty of cringe in every fandom.
Some fandoms are worse than others and have a Venn diagram of who they attract as the most rabid fans. For instance anyone wanna be in the room with a bunch of Sopranos fans that openly celebrate the mob and don't understand the show is meant to be a depressing take on toxic masculinity.
It's a very classic Hero's Journey and thick with liberal tropes. Popularity-wise it was a struggle to reproduce in large part because everyone was reproducing it. As soon as they tried to extend the themes of the original, people got mad because it wasn't their original cast doing the original story.
Most cartoons rendered as progressive are just diet liberal (I'm not expecting Disney or Nick to put out a Maoist think piece), still be hard pressed to find one during that period that did discuss propaganda and imperialism within it's limited context. As for copy cat shows I really don't remember any either because they also never got the lightning in a bottle effect or just fizzled out from lack of fudning (not being supplied enough seasons or time to properly "cook"). The hate for Korra was, at least from what I saw an issue of the themes being very off at times, most apparent with the clear workers/underclass strife vs benders brought up by Amon (who more or less acted a revolutionary expy) and never dealt with again (also Korra more or less becoming a cop for that book). Also the spirits arc was interesting but executed weirdly.
They walked that back a decade ago.
You can find plenty of cringe in every fandom.
It's a very classic Hero's Journey and thick with liberal tropes. Popularity-wise it was a struggle to reproduce in large part because everyone was reproducing it. As soon as they tried to extend the themes of the original, people got mad because it wasn't their original cast doing the original story.
The episodes on transgender athletes would say otherwise on them "walking it back a decade ago", also ngl fash and fash adjacent always have a habit of "oh it's just a joke BRO, I'm sorry I hurt your feeling for realsies" as they backpeddle when attitudes change.
Some fandoms are worse than others and have a Venn diagram of who they attract as the most rabid fans. For instance anyone wanna be in the room with a bunch of Sopranos fans that openly celebrate the mob and don't understand the show is meant to be a depressing take on toxic masculinity.
Most cartoons rendered as progressive are just diet liberal (I'm not expecting Disney or Nick to put out a Maoist think piece), still be hard pressed to find one during that period that did discuss propaganda and imperialism within it's limited context. As for copy cat shows I really don't remember any either because they also never got the lightning in a bottle effect or just fizzled out from lack of fudning (not being supplied enough seasons or time to properly "cook"). The hate for Korra was, at least from what I saw an issue of the themes being very off at times, most apparent with the clear workers/underclass strife vs benders brought up by Amon (who more or less acted a revolutionary expy) and never dealt with again (also Korra more or less becoming a cop for that book). Also the spirits arc was interesting but executed weirdly.