https://fortune.com/2024/02/09/gen-z-grad-two-degrees-breaks-down-tears-minimum-wage-employers-resume-in-person/

“I was so upset and disappointed in myself because growing up, I was told that if I get an education, if I go to college, then I’ll be successful,” Santos told Business Insider—and she’s not the first Gen Zer to complain about feeling tricked into pursuing further education.

Just last month, 27-year-old Robbie Scott similarly went viral on TikTok for insisting that Gen Z isn’t any less willing to work than generations before. Instead, he said, they are “getting angry and entitled and whiny” about the prospect of having to work hard for the rest of their adult life, only to “get nothing in return.”

  • roux [he/him, comrade/them]
    hexbear
    59
    5 months ago

    I've been filing out 20-50 apps weekly for 6 months. I have actual experience too. I'm still unemployed. But I have double depression, double burnout from trying to get a job and keep up with both programming and IT/networking, I am also in shutdown-lite™️ mode, have meltdowns 3-5 times a week and cry 2-3 times a day. I'm a 40 year old man and we have 2 kids and a single income(teacher salary). Can I go viral too?

    • coeliacmccarthy [he/him]
      hexbear
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      5 months ago

      But I have double depression, double burnout

      americans have depression and burnout, but in typical american extravagance they have two of them

      • roux [he/him, comrade/them]
        hexbear
        20
        5 months ago

        There's actually a form of sever chronic depression I recently learned about and the guy I was talking to called it double depression. What he described sounded very similar to what I have. Basically think of having 24/7 depression but yuo are extra depressed where normal people might just have a depression spell.

        The double burnout bit was more meant as a joke based on the double depression thing. I was listening to a podcast about autistic burnout and sort of realized I've probably been in burnout from my autism for the last couple of years.

        • coeliacmccarthy [he/him]
          hexbear
          17
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          5 months ago

          double depression is dysthymia plus major depressive disorder ask me how i know

          • roux [he/him, comrade/them]
            hexbear
            9
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            5 months ago

            MDD was the one I was thinking of. Just a constant depressive state. Gonna Google dysthymia now.

            E: I guess I'll take one of each

            E2: I have dysthymia for sure

    • hungrybread [comrade/them]
      hexbear
      18
      5 months ago

      I feel ya. I was at least getting some callbacks this time last year but haven't heard much since July from any employers. Tried different resume formats, cover letters, lying about more experience, but nada.

      Anothet weird thing is that my employer has complained for at least 5 years that hiring engineers and devs is so difficult, yet we keep seeing all these layoffs in tech. Maybe pay people better? Idk it isn't hard to ask the workers why their industry colleagues don't want to work for you even when they have few other choices.

      Didnt mean to bring you down, just needed to commiserate a bit. Good luck on your job hunt comrade

      • roux [he/him, comrade/them]
        hexbear
        21
        5 months ago

        I get a few interviews here and there but suck at them. I've started lying a bit in hopes that I might land something. I even punched way above my belt and applied for a networking position at a local bank and they want to do a screener next week. I'm not qualified but am working towards my CCNA or at least practical knowledge that I hope will work.

        I've since given up on software dev since after 10 years total, 4 years of school and etc, I finally land a job and then get fired a year later. They kept the guy on thst never touched programming in his life though. 70k worth of student loan debt just to get told nope by everyone I applied to. I have 2 apps published but that isn't good enough for an entry level mobile dev position.

    • @Great_Leader_Is_Dead
      hexbear
      14
      5 months ago

      Nah, the only do stories like this for like art students to reinforce the narrative that it's all lazy millennials who are struggling. Ignoring even the STEM fields are suffering right now, my sister has a degree in mechanical engineering and even she's struggling to find work.

      • roux [he/him, comrade/them]
        hexbear
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        5 months ago

        Oh shit, is she an art student? The article is behind an enshitification wall. That just makes the article even more pathetic. Way to shit on someone's hopes and dreams when they don't line up with making oligarchs richer...

        My degree is Computer Information Systems and I also get told I should have went for something that was marketable "instead of a liberal arts degree" so the brainworms are real.

        We also need a general strike against student loan debt since no one gives a fuck about fixing that bullshit.

        E: I didn't see where it said her degree was in but it did say several times that she wanted to become a professional influencer so they are gonna probably just ride that line to dehumanize her.

        • @Great_Leader_Is_Dead
          hexbear
          10
          5 months ago

          2015: "lol just learn to code"

          2024: "lol just learn to mine coal"

              • roux [he/him, comrade/them]
                hexbear
                2
                5 months ago

                Can they be taught? Millennials are pretty much over with but a few of my zoomer friends are closet leftists and fairly self aware.

                • @Great_Leader_Is_Dead
                  hexbear
                  4
                  5 months ago

                  I mean, not to be a total doomer cuz I'm actually a tiny bit hopeful on the global scale, but sadly I think the Maoists Third Worldists are right, there isn't a 1st world proletarian and there's no hope of organizing in the imperial core. The treat-brain is too deep at this point.

                  • roux [he/him, comrade/them]
                    hexbear
                    2
                    5 months ago

                    I didn't know this was a Maoist think but this is sort of where I am at too. We need the Global South to gain class consciousness and cut off the Empire for any real universal proletarian movement to happen.

      • roux [he/him, comrade/them]
        hexbear
        3
        5 months ago

        I've been unemployed for over 10 years if the last 20. You actually almost get used to it in a sad and depraved sort of way.

        The only reason I even went to college was as an attempt to land a career instead of dead end jobs yet here I am.

        Well no careee landed but it's at least partially right blame for my radicalizing so there is that.