• @highduc@lemmy.ml
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      Afaik the charges were just a tool fabricated to be used against him.
      He exposed US war crimes and therefore they made him an enemy of the state and want to make an example out of him, to show others that when going against the US you have no rights - they can torture you, imprison you forever, etc.

      • @rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml
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        4 months ago

        Afaik the charges were just a tool fabricated to be used against him.

        Yes, that's a very popular conspiracy theory among his online supporters. It's founded in literally no material evidence of any kind, but that's never stopped a conspiracy theory from gaining traction.

        • plinky [he/him]
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          Hey, quick question: to where is he is extradited?

          *I've misread comrade, more paying attention to the tool part than fabricated part. Assange should get some hustice for his sa (iikely true) allegations, but prolly embassy imprisonment counts for his prison time for that

          • @rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml
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            Why he's being extradited to the United States! Y'know, because of the ESPIONAGE charges brought against him in 2019, which were motivated by his receiving classified data from Chelsea Manning. You can say that the rape charges against him occurring around the same time are suspicious, and I would tacitly agree with you, but there's no evidence to suggest that they are related. And if the United States wants your ass in a blacksite, it doesn't need to fabricate sexual assault allegations to disappear you.

            • plinky [he/him]
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              4 months ago

              I do think his conduct can be classified as assault. I also think britain instituting 24/7 surveillance on ecuador embassy has got nothing to do with those charges, because no country in the world does this over sa charges. They (sweden case and usa one) are related in as much as he can't answer for charges in sweden, cause even he were charged and imprisoned there, there is still no guarantee he won't be extradited to usa.

              The charges are a tool (maybe fabricated wrong word by the poster above), but they are still a tool to fuck him over.

              USA can't disappear to black site famous people, they need their mask of free press

              • @rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml
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                The charges are a tool (maybe fabricated wrong word by the poster above), but they are still a tool to fuck him over.

                This is hardcore goalpost moving. The original wording to which I responded was literally saying the charges were fabricated. Saying "fabricated" is the "wrong word" is like someone saying "fake" is the wrong word to describe the moon landings. It suggests a kernel of truth to something that is completely unfounded, implying that it's simply overreaching by a matter of degree. So you're not saying Julian Assange didn't commit sexual assault. You're just saying it doesn't really matter if he did.

                And literally no one is disagreeing that there's some realpolitk at play here, but saying an instance of sexual assault did not occur on the basis that its occurrence is politically inconvenient (and when would a sexual assault charge not be for someone like Assange?) is literal rape apologism.

      • Æsc@lemmy.sdf.org
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        4 months ago

        AFAIK the only reason one would rather fight extradition to the U.S. in the UK than fight extradition to the U.S. in Sweden is because one committed a heinous crime in Sweden.

    • FuckyWucky [none/use name]
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      to face trial over leaking military secrets.

      Yea it's definitely about the rape charges. lemmitor

      • AOCapitulator [they/them]
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        We hold people accountable for that stuff here in America, you think we'd just let rapists be in charge of every aspect of our society? Here? Never!!