• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    I love how mad this is making people.

    He's the Pope. Obviously he's going to want peace. What the hell do people expect? He doesn't care if land is Russian or Ukrainian as long as people stop dying. The geopolitics of the situation are simply not part of his ideology.

    • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      4 months ago

      Interesting that he chooses to say the people having a genocide done on them need to surrender (which they've literally done and been shot anyway btw) and not the perpetrators of said genocide needing to stop.

      Probably because the Pope is and always has been a piece of shit

      • Nobilmantis@feddit.it
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        4 months ago

        Interesting that he chooses to say the people having a genocide done on them need to surrender

        Huh he didnt say this about the people in Gaza, what are you talking about?

          • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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            4 months ago

            Lmao well you sure don't use the actual definition of genocide

            [T]he ICJ ruled on Friday that it will not address whether Russia violated the 1948 Genocide Convention by using what Ukraine says were trumped-up genocide charges as a pretext for the war, even if the invasion may have violated international law broadly.

            Instead, the case will proceed to assess whether Ukraine committed genocide in the eastern parts of the country, as Russia claims – a matter where judges ruled that they have jurisdiction.

            https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/2/icj-rules-that-it-will-hear-part-of-ukraine-russia-genocide-case

      • pelikan@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        4 months ago

        Well, if Pope is called "piece of shit" for calling to negotiations to prevent more people dying, then who are you, who's ok with war going on? Entire shit?

      • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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        4 months ago

        War crimes like the forcible transfer of children (i.e. genocide) are for the ICJ to deal with. As a religious leader his prerogative is to reduce suffering and death, by whatever means necessary.

        More importantly, Russia can keep this up far longer than Ukraine and he doesn't want us to fight to the last Ukrainian.

        • Aidinthel@reddthat.com
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          4 months ago

          Right, a smaller country can never successfully resist a larger one. That's why Vietnam has been under US occupation (or was it French? I can never remember for some reason) all these years since Ho Cho Minh wisely surrendered to spare his people's lives.

          • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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            4 months ago

            A smaller neighbor is vastly different. Vietnam was on the other side of the planet for America and halfway for France. You can't ignore that.

          • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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            4 months ago

            The Viet Minh enjoyed the support of the people. The Kyiv regime needs to send out kidnapping squads to fill gaps in their lines. They do not have the support of the people, so their prospects for a successful insurgency are nil.