Toxic is what I encountered. It wasn't just different opinions. It was what people called me and how and what they commented. I'm glad that didn't happen to you yet but don't pretend you know what happened to me.
They called me a liberal for pointing to "Homage to Catalonia", which they called liberal propaganda even though I explained that in the book Orwell called out the Stalinists for siding with the liberals, indirectly against the anarchosyndicalists and thereby helping the fascists to power.
Sure, you can have different readings of historical events, but you can also spam people with 1984 memes and hate on an author without knowing shit about him. Reminds me of the Hakim video about Orwell where he claims that he never spoke about Franco even though Homage to Catalonia exists and that's the book about his politicization and he cites it as most influential and most important. Except that Hakim didn't react to someone who literally explained all that. Tbf some of the explaining was in later removed comments so some of the commenters didn't see them.
Orwell was a well known anti communist, so yeah, pretty lib take to defend him. Seems called for to me. I bet you didn't get banned for having one lib take though
Sounds like you have the right black and white thinking for hexbear. How is criticizing Stalin for working with the libs a thing that makes you a lib? Sure, he was anti communist, or rather anti stalinist and I guess anti bolshevik, and there is a lot to criticize from a left perspective, I'm not going to defend his homophobia and antisemitism but he was not a liberal. There are more than 2 political camps. How can you totally ignore my last comment?
So he was a right wing / conservative anarchist? Also known as a libertarian?
I guess it could be argued that libertarians aren't necessarily neoliberals in the modern context, so okay, I'd be willing to admit he might not be a lib. However libertarians are even worse, so that's even more funny that you're defending him.
He was not. That's why the left/right distinction is too one dimensional. He was a conservative anarchist (socialist) if anything but if you listen to the podcast you will see why not even that. Conservative anarchism seaks non hierarchical structures and communities in history and present and tries to use them as an example. Like Kropotkin did in "mutual aid" and Graeber in alot of his work.
I'm not sure if you are trying to understand me and this is really hard for you or you are just trying to prove me wrong. If you are really not understanding what I'm saying or not even trying. If you want to engage further, take the hour and listen to the podcast. It's not my job to educate you in these basic concepts. I did alot already.
Conservatives anarchists want me and my comrades dead, so yes, I'm not super interested in hearing you out on this. Conservatism is at direct odds with literally me being alive. I'm seeing now why Hexbear banned you for sure. You literally want us dead of course you got banned
A thought terminating cliches from a tankie, how very unexpected. And how foolish of me to even give you the benefit of a doubt, I should know better by now, I'm long enough on the internet. You never heard of conservative anarchism before, don't even try to understand the concept and what "conservative" in this context means, yet you think they want you dead. And after so many anarchists where killed by former comrades who talked about left unity until they were in power, I really should have known better.
Toxic is when you post your opinion in a discussion forum, apparently.
Toxic is what I encountered. It wasn't just different opinions. It was what people called me and how and what they commented. I'm glad that didn't happen to you yet but don't pretend you know what happened to me.
What did folks call you? Why did they?
They called me a liberal for pointing to "Homage to Catalonia", which they called liberal propaganda even though I explained that in the book Orwell called out the Stalinists for siding with the liberals, indirectly against the anarchosyndicalists and thereby helping the fascists to power.
Sure, you can have different readings of historical events, but you can also spam people with 1984 memes and hate on an author without knowing shit about him. Reminds me of the Hakim video about Orwell where he claims that he never spoke about Franco even though Homage to Catalonia exists and that's the book about his politicization and he cites it as most influential and most important. Except that Hakim didn't react to someone who literally explained all that. Tbf some of the explaining was in later removed comments so some of the commenters didn't see them.
Orwell was a well known anti communist, so yeah, pretty lib take to defend him. Seems called for to me. I bet you didn't get banned for having one lib take though
Sounds like you have the right black and white thinking for hexbear. How is criticizing Stalin for working with the libs a thing that makes you a lib? Sure, he was anti communist, or rather anti stalinist and I guess anti bolshevik, and there is a lot to criticize from a left perspective, I'm not going to defend his homophobia and antisemitism but he was not a liberal. There are more than 2 political camps. How can you totally ignore my last comment?
By your own admission he was a bigoted homophobe, but he's still not a lib? What is he then?
According to the podcast "Everyday Anarchism", we was a tory anarchist.
So he was a right wing / conservative anarchist? Also known as a libertarian?
I guess it could be argued that libertarians aren't necessarily neoliberals in the modern context, so okay, I'd be willing to admit he might not be a lib. However libertarians are even worse, so that's even more funny that you're defending him.
He was not. That's why the left/right distinction is too one dimensional. He was a conservative anarchist (socialist) if anything but if you listen to the podcast you will see why not even that. Conservative anarchism seaks non hierarchical structures and communities in history and present and tries to use them as an example. Like Kropotkin did in "mutual aid" and Graeber in alot of his work.
I'm not sure if you are trying to understand me and this is really hard for you or you are just trying to prove me wrong. If you are really not understanding what I'm saying or not even trying. If you want to engage further, take the hour and listen to the podcast. It's not my job to educate you in these basic concepts. I did alot already.
Conservatives anarchists want me and my comrades dead, so yes, I'm not super interested in hearing you out on this. Conservatism is at direct odds with literally me being alive. I'm seeing now why Hexbear banned you for sure. You literally want us dead of course you got banned
A thought terminating cliches from a tankie, how very unexpected. And how foolish of me to even give you the benefit of a doubt, I should know better by now, I'm long enough on the internet. You never heard of conservative anarchism before, don't even try to understand the concept and what "conservative" in this context means, yet you think they want you dead. And after so many anarchists where killed by former comrades who talked about left unity until they were in power, I really should have known better.
Tankie*
Sorry if that insulted you. I corrected that typo.