Have seen so many otherwise tame people go mask off fash because you can’t argue with logic (never mind the root cause of the logic in question)

I am seriously fucking terrified. I think philosophy might be dead thanks to pompous tech bros

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    And 99 times out of 100, the "logic" in question doesn't hold up to even the barest scrutiny. What the speaker claims is a direct line from A to B is in fact a line from A to Z, with all the letters B-Y being filled in with the speaker's own unsupported and often not explicitly stated prejudices and misconceptions.

    • Hohsia [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      Some worthless tech bro on tik tok did a major actually because logic says everyone talking about wealth inequality is just a triggered and jealous leftist and things haven’t changed nearly as much as people are saying

      I bet the ruling class is thrilled to have so many fucking useful idiots

    • @NewLeaf
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      I was talking to a friend yesterday who is a Biden liberal. Actually, it doesn't matter who you stick in there, he will support them. He grew up well off and has a nice job now.

      Anyway, he brought up politics and it came around to "we need to get out the vote for Biden but young people don't vote". So I brought up how hard it is to vote when you work weird hours, don't have transportation and have to stand in line for hours to do so. He agreed, but defaulted to "republicans make it so hard to vote". I didn't have the heart to press him on why democrats aren't making it easier when they are in power. To be fair though, our state did, and is doing a lot of good with our lib leadership.

      Anyway, his privilege glasses blinded him from all of the B-Y steps of why voting isn't as simple as A-B. I've been trying to crack his privilege dome for our entire friendship. I get through once in a while, but he's in too high of a tax bracket to ever know what real hardship is like.

      • Ivysaur@lemmygrad.ml
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        This shit bothers the piss outta me but if you keep pressing them like this in my xp they will agree with you long enough until they get to the part where they either implicitly or explicitly admit they just don’t care about anything adjacent to a measurable truth and will go back to complaining about the homeless or lazy kids or whatever. Like, they’ll straight up say you’re right about everything, and then continue the conversation as if it never happened. Maddening. I don’t bother anymore.

        • @NewLeaf
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          He's a good friend of mine, and I usually just try to steer away from politics with him. He's just not engaged enough to see a big picture, and resorts to dumb shit like "we gotta reign in the deficit" or some other nebulous thing that won't improve people's material conditions. If I can, I remind him that the key to all of this is improving material conditions.