There is simply no legitimate lib morality reason why you'd go from "Je suis Charlie" to "Free Uyghur" right? It's so inconsistent. Hate Muslims when they're in France, suddenly very concerned for them when they're in China?
I know it's not out of genuine concern, but how do they justify it to themselves? One year you're cheering on ridiculously islamophobic cartoonists, the next you're crying about Chinese suppression of Muslim culture with no evidence?
They had some "freedom of expression" thing going with charlie hebdo, "I will defend to the death your right to publish the shitty racist asshole" magazine. Charlie hebdo, as far as I'm aware, was mostly an edgelord shitposting rag with a lot of racism and hate, but libs thought it was harpers or the atlantic with some off color jokes.
Xinjiang I don't even fucking know. I think it's some "China bad, genocide bad, therefor china == genocide" and there really just isn't anything else to it.
but these days people are openly saying that Charlie Hebdo deserved what happened and that without the attack it wouldve disappeared and been forgotten
The "Je Suis Charlie" thing was used more for fear mongering about how western civilization was under attack from 'barbaric islamist forces' or whatever than any sincere concern for the victims. The only reason that this got so much media focus and a hashtag and worldwide attention was that the perpetrators were brown Muslims and the victims literally died on the hill of being able to make racist cartoon strips no matter what people said. I quite distinctly remember my dad using the attack at the time to claim that Muslim countries needed western countries to help govern them because they were so backwards.
To be clear, I absolutely condemn the attack and none of the victims deserved to die in the slightest; but the way the media laser focused in on it and the way they spun the story afterwards was absolutely a racism thing.
You're extremely ignorant and clearly speaking out of your depth here. What repression are the Uyghur people facing in modern cities, amazing infrastructure, and a clean environment? Even the China Hawks have dropped the Uyghur genocide crap because they've understood how little impact it has to make bold accusations based on one antisemitic freak's fever dreams, and contradicted by almost every single Muslim majority country that actually toured the camps?
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Meanwhile, France has a new crazy islamophobic policy every week because they'll take every excuse to persecute Muslims. Like how they've started raiding Mosques on loose, secretive evidence. The Je suis Charlie movement was only ever a fig leaf for islamophobes to attack Islam, much like the original Charlie Hebdo cartoons were horrifyingly islamophobic.
If they were against terror attacks then they'd support the PRC's efforts to eliminate reactionary terrorists from Xinjiang using re-education, instead of the Western method of bombing and drone strikes.
Of course, liberals actually support Islamic reactionaries against communists though, 100% of the time.
From Operation Gladio by Paul L. Williams (p. 271):
“During the Cold War, a Pan-Turkish movement was unleashed by Col. Alparslan Türkeş, the Gladio commander in Turkey, who upheld a belief in Turkish racial superiority. He envisioned the restoration of the Ottoman Empire from the collapse of the Soviet Union, which kept the Turkish peoples of Central Asia in political and economic bondage. The Grey Wolves, the ‘youth military unit’ formed by Türkeş, were named after the legendary wolves that led the scattered Turkish tribes out of Asia to their homeland in Anatolia. This task did not seem daunting. Thanks to Gladio, the CIA had controlled Turkish affairs for decades. Çatlı, as a disciple of Türkeş, was an extremely useful agent provocateur—an operative capable [of] expanding both the drug trade and the strategy of tension within Xinjiang and Central Asia. Throughout the 1990s, hundreds of Uyghurs were transported to Afghanistan by the CIA for training in guerrilla warfare by the mujahideen. When they returned to Xinjiang, they formed the East Turkistan Islamic Movement and came under Çatlı‘s expert direction. Graham Fuller, CIA superspy, offered this explanation for radicalizing the Chinese Muslims:
The policy of guiding the evolution of Islam and of helping them [Muslims] against our adversaries worked marvelously well in Afghanistan against the Red Army. The same doctrines can still be used to destabilize what remains of Russian power, and especially to counter the Chinese influence in Central Asia
This policy of destabilization was devised by Bernard Lewis, an Oxford University specialist on Islamic studies, who called for the creation of an 'Arc of Crisis' around the southern borders of the Soviet Union by empowering Muslim radicals to rebel against their Communist overlords” (Williams 240).
“…without the Cold War excuse our foreign policymakers had a real hard time justifying our joint operations and terrorism schemes in the resource-rich ex Soviet states with these same groups, so they made sure they kept their policies unwritten and unspoken, and considering their grip on the mainstream media, largely unreported. Now what would your response be if I were to say on the record, and, if required, under oath: ‘Between 1996 and 2002, we, the United States, planned, financed, and helped execute every major terrorist incident by Chechen rebels (and the Mujahideen) against Russia. Between 1996 and 2002, we, the United States, planned, financed, and helped execute every single uprising and terror related scheme in Xinjiang (aka East Turkistan and Uyghurstan)’” — Sibel Edmonds, FBI Whistleblower
"And the third reason [the United States is in Afghanistan] is because there are twenty million Uyghurs, and they don't like Han Chinese in Xinjiang Province in Western China [sic]. And if the CIA has to mount an operation using those Uyghurs as Erdoğan has done in Turkey against Assad—there are 20,000 of them in Syria right now for example, that's why the Chinese might be deploying military forces to Syria in the very near future [never occurred] to take care of those Uyghurs that Erdoğan invited in—well the CIA would want to destabilize China, and that would be the best way to do it: to foment unrest and to join with those Uyghurs in pushing the Han Chinese and Beijing from internal places rather than external. Not saying it's going on right now, you didn't hear that [smiles], but it is a possibility. So that's why we're there and I'll wager there're not a handful of Americans who realize that we, our military, has decided that for these strategic reasons which are well-thought out, we're gonna be in Afghanistan for the next half century" — Lawrence Wilkerson, Chief of Staff to former Secretary of State Colin Powell and retired US Army Colonel speaking at the Ron Paul Institute's Washington conference in 2018
There is simply no legitimate lib morality reason why you'd go from "Je suis Charlie" to "Free Uyghur" right? It's so inconsistent. Hate Muslims when they're in France, suddenly very concerned for them when they're in China?
It actually makes perfect sense if they hate Chinese people more than Muslims
Because the concern for Uyghurs is never actually about genuine concern for Muslims
I know it's not out of genuine concern, but how do they justify it to themselves? One year you're cheering on ridiculously islamophobic cartoonists, the next you're crying about Chinese suppression of Muslim culture with no evidence?
The islamophobia goes right over their head like everything else.
that didn't take long lol
lol, technically I'm the chaser.
smh Hexbear supports a chaser /j
Because they don't actually care about anything but themselves.
They had some "freedom of expression" thing going with charlie hebdo, "I will defend to the death your right to publish the shitty racist asshole" magazine. Charlie hebdo, as far as I'm aware, was mostly an edgelord shitposting rag with a lot of racism and hate, but libs thought it was harpers or the atlantic with some off color jokes.
Xinjiang I don't even fucking know. I think it's some "China bad, genocide bad, therefor china == genocide" and there really just isn't anything else to it.
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The "Je Suis Charlie" thing was used more for fear mongering about how western civilization was under attack from 'barbaric islamist forces' or whatever than any sincere concern for the victims. The only reason that this got so much media focus and a hashtag and worldwide attention was that the perpetrators were brown Muslims and the victims literally died on the hill of being able to make racist cartoon strips no matter what people said. I quite distinctly remember my dad using the attack at the time to claim that Muslim countries needed western countries to help govern them because they were so backwards.
To be clear, I absolutely condemn the attack and none of the victims deserved to die in the slightest; but the way the media laser focused in on it and the way they spun the story afterwards was absolutely a racism thing.
Some kind of dedication to a bit
You're extremely ignorant and clearly speaking out of your depth here. What repression are the Uyghur people facing in modern cities, amazing infrastructure, and a clean environment? Even the China Hawks have dropped the Uyghur genocide crap because they've understood how little impact it has to make bold accusations based on one antisemitic freak's fever dreams, and contradicted by almost every single Muslim majority country that actually toured the camps?
Meanwhile, France has a new crazy islamophobic policy every week because they'll take every excuse to persecute Muslims. Like how they've started raiding Mosques on loose, secretive evidence. The Je suis Charlie movement was only ever a fig leaf for islamophobes to attack Islam, much like the original Charlie Hebdo cartoons were horrifyingly islamophobic.
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You're a deeply unserious person and your juvenile trolling amuses only yourself
Our mods leniency doesn't last for pathetic sort like you so either shut the fuck up and try learning a damn thing or two or just leave
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I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
If they were against terror attacks then they'd support the PRC's efforts to eliminate reactionary terrorists from Xinjiang using re-education, instead of the Western method of bombing and drone strikes.
Of course, liberals actually support Islamic reactionaries against communists though, 100% of the time.
also didn't the CIA fund the terrorism?
yeah i'm (nominally) anti-terrorist, that's why i'm anti-american!
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From Operation Gladio by Paul L. Williams (p. 271):
“…without the Cold War excuse our foreign policymakers had a real hard time justifying our joint operations and terrorism schemes in the resource-rich ex Soviet states with these same groups, so they made sure they kept their policies unwritten and unspoken, and considering their grip on the mainstream media, largely unreported. Now what would your response be if I were to say on the record, and, if required, under oath: ‘Between 1996 and 2002, we, the United States, planned, financed, and helped execute every major terrorist incident by Chechen rebels (and the Mujahideen) against Russia. Between 1996 and 2002, we, the United States, planned, financed, and helped execute every single uprising and terror related scheme in Xinjiang (aka East Turkistan and Uyghurstan)’” — Sibel Edmonds, FBI Whistleblower
"And the third reason [the United States is in Afghanistan] is because there are twenty million Uyghurs, and they don't like Han Chinese in Xinjiang Province in Western China [sic]. And if the CIA has to mount an operation using those Uyghurs as Erdoğan has done in Turkey against Assad—there are 20,000 of them in Syria right now for example, that's why the Chinese might be deploying military forces to Syria in the very near future [never occurred] to take care of those Uyghurs that Erdoğan invited in—well the CIA would want to destabilize China, and that would be the best way to do it: to foment unrest and to join with those Uyghurs in pushing the Han Chinese and Beijing from internal places rather than external. Not saying it's going on right now, you didn't hear that [smiles], but it is a possibility. So that's why we're there and I'll wager there're not a handful of Americans who realize that we, our military, has decided that for these strategic reasons which are well-thought out, we're gonna be in Afghanistan for the next half century" — Lawrence Wilkerson, Chief of Staff to former Secretary of State Colin Powell and retired US Army Colonel speaking at the Ron Paul Institute's Washington conference in 2018
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Well as we all know the best way to combat Islamic terrorism is to horribly destabilize Islamic country, silly China!
Correct... it's gotta do with geopolitical coverage and interests at hand
That being said, I must ask... when do you think the repression by China's gov't started and why did it start?
Just 2 questions...