That's definitely a useful distinction, but I don't think you treat the latter group like chuds -- they're the ones who articulate that ambient ideology the former group nods along to. Dismiss or attack a group someone already disagrees with (chuds) and that group will give you broad latitude, or even cheer you on. Dismiss or attack the sacred cows of liberal spaces and those "soft liberals" will tell themselves that you didn't actually address what was said.