lmao

(also use Linux)

  • RION [she/her]
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    7 months ago

    From an /r/technology thread, emphasis mine

    It isn't really even about the software, it is the hardware requirements. Win 11 with the TPM modules and required chips will always mean it has limited share at least for some time. Many machines simply can't upgrade to Windows 11 from 10. Windows 10 will have staying power like Windows XP due to that.

    I like Windows 11 and all machines updated except for one from 2016 that is more of a fun computer that just can't justify putting money in it for the TPM or updated chip.

    Yeah, this isn't people downgrading to windows 10, or refusing to update. Rather, this is because people are upgrading to Windows 10, and LOTS of existing computers are old and do not meet the hardware requirements for Windows 11.

    Windows 10: 70.03% (+0.96 points) Windows 11: 25.65% (-0.97 points)

    Those are percentages of the total. It may be some people downgrading but it's not worth it. More likely there are more Windows computers and the bulk of them end up on windows 10.

    The "Microsoft is washed, people don't like 11 anymore" angle is tempting but I think it's the less likely reason compared to an increase in sold hardware that literally cannot run 11

    • sexywheat [none/use name]
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      7 months ago

      I built my PC in 2018 and it cost thousands of dollars. It does not meet the hardware requirements.

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        I updated my mobo in I think 2020 and it doesn't meet requirements lol.

    • Owl [he/him]
      hexagon
      ·
      7 months ago

      That doesn't really check out. People upgrading to 10 would explain 10's share going up (at the expense of earlier versions), not 11's going down.

      People buying new computers doesn't work well as an explanation either; it'd require over 2% of all Windows users to have bought new Windows 10 computers in the last few months. When presumably a brand new computer would be on 11.

      • RION [she/her]
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        7 months ago

        since market share is a proportional statistic, any increase in the market share of one thing must correspond with a decrease in others. If I've sold 1 apple and 1 pear, the market share of each is 50%. If I sell an additional apple, the apple share increases to 66% while the pear share decreases to 33% despite no actual drop in pear sales.

        • Owl [he/him]
          hexagon
          ·
          7 months ago

          Like I said above, that'd require over 2% of all Windows installs to be new installations of Windows 10.

          • RION [she/her]
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            7 months ago

            ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i remain similarly skeptical that so many people would be actively downgrading their OS. for the vast, vast majority of people any qualms with W11 aren't going to lead to learning how to reinstall a fresh OS. there's got to be something more going on

    • KoboldKomrade [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Disagree with any assertion its not software. I won't go from 10 to 11 even if I get a TPM card. I'm forced to use it at work and its incredibly bad. Like dollar store Windows 8.

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        It's just another layer of UI on top of windows XP. You still hit XP dialogs when you have to do anything useful. Now you just have to get there through 11 -> 10 -> 7 -> XP and if you really need to do something useful you'll hit a DOS prompt at some point.