Damn guys, did you hear? BIPOC leftists created democracy in the form of a settler-colonial slave state built on the bones of a murdered indigenous population. You learn something new every day!
In absolute awe of this take. There is no democracy that was won, simply pittances of control given to the few of us as a means of letting off revolutionary steam. The US did not become and never was democratic for the vast majority, only for the rich class, it's just that some still quite marginalized identities had small subsections allowed to ascend to the rich class.
The US was approaching democracy but it never actually reached that point. In order for the US to have ever been a democracy there are a lot of fundamental government structures that would have needed to be destroyed. The Electoral College is obvious, but also the Senate and the cap on House members and the fact that voting rights aren't guaranteed and the sabotage of public campaign finance and the fucking Supreme Court- the list goes on. The US never actually became a full democracy at any point in its history, you are being idealistic.
Many communities of color rely on politicians on the local, municipal, and state level in order for much needed accommodations (such as Autistic people such as myself) and social welfare benefits.
They weren't bequeathed to us.
They were fought for and won.
If it weren't for us working-class folk, you wouldn't have the social welfare benefits you have, if you have any, whitey.
I don't want to hear about what the democratic system doesn't do right.
Because what it doesn't do right is due to the bourgeois.
It's a Greek word with an actual historical basis in reality, not just a word that you use to describe marginalized people winning concessions inside an empire. They invented democracy (for citizens), and of those citizens it was the wealthiest that took over everything. As soon as democracy was invented, it was used mystify class relations. You simply delivered some rhetoric about the benefits of democracy and ignored the actual power structure. It has nothing to do with freedom or people being able to live as they please or not being exploited by the wealthy.
That's centuries before European industrial capitalism let alone American industrial capitalism.
A liberal is someone who believes that the United States is a democracy.
That's not the definition of a liberal.
The working-class fought for democracy. It wasn't bequeathed on us BIPOC people by liberals or the bourgeois.
Your mind is tainted by white leftist speak. I don't even care if you're BIPOC yourself. I deal with MAGAts near me every day.
You're speaking as if democracy in the US is real.
It was created by BIPOC and leftist people. If democracy didn't work, they wouldn't be taking it away right now.
Damn guys, did you hear? BIPOC leftists created democracy in the form of a settler-colonial slave state built on the bones of a murdered indigenous population. You learn something new every day!
yeah
If it weren't for us, there wouldn't be any democracy and the bourgeois wouldn't be trying to take it away every day.
The only reason you can elect anyone is because of people like us
In absolute awe of this take. There is no democracy that was won, simply pittances of control given to the few of us as a means of letting off revolutionary steam. The US did not become and never was democratic for the vast majority, only for the rich class, it's just that some still quite marginalized identities had small subsections allowed to ascend to the rich class.
They're just really committed to the bit
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The US was approaching democracy but it never actually reached that point. In order for the US to have ever been a democracy there are a lot of fundamental government structures that would have needed to be destroyed. The Electoral College is obvious, but also the Senate and the cap on House members and the fact that voting rights aren't guaranteed and the sabotage of public campaign finance and the fucking Supreme Court- the list goes on. The US never actually became a full democracy at any point in its history, you are being idealistic.
Nope.
Many communities of color rely on politicians on the local, municipal, and state level in order for much needed accommodations (such as Autistic people such as myself) and social welfare benefits.
They weren't bequeathed to us.
They were fought for and won.
If it weren't for us working-class folk, you wouldn't have the social welfare benefits you have, if you have any, whitey.
I don't want to hear about what the democratic system doesn't do right.
Because what it doesn't do right is due to the bourgeois.
It's a Greek word with an actual historical basis in reality, not just a word that you use to describe marginalized people winning concessions inside an empire. They invented democracy (for citizens), and of those citizens it was the wealthiest that took over everything. As soon as democracy was invented, it was used mystify class relations. You simply delivered some rhetoric about the benefits of democracy and ignored the actual power structure. It has nothing to do with freedom or people being able to live as they please or not being exploited by the wealthy.
That's centuries before European industrial capitalism let alone American industrial capitalism.
Why don't you go vote about it?
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