Anyone else keeping up with this?

    • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
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      7 months ago

      It's not a liberal doc.

      And I was near where it happened. These people tried to do a fascist putsch.

      • ZWQbpkzl [none/use name]
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        7 months ago

        I dont doubt that they honestly believed they were going to overthrow the government. But what do you think their chances for success ever were?

        • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
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          7 months ago

          Pretty darn likely. They had backing from several sectors of capital, but it was ersatz and done at the last minute.

          This was obviously a test-run

          • robinnn
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            7 months ago

            Pretty darn likely? What happens when the National Guard comes and mows them down? You think if they got into the building and hanged Mike Pence that they would have control over the country and everyone would have to bow down to them?

            Why would they use idiots who try to climb a wall with a set of stairs inches away from them to launch a serious coup to take over the country?

          • marx_mentat [he/him, comrade/them]
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            7 months ago

            Half of them smeared their own shit all over the interior walls. Even if by some miracle every person in Congress burst into flames and died on Jan 6, do you think corporations would start taking orders from them?

  • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    I'm definitely interested in a political documentary from the studio that produced a film called "Civil War" that had zero understanding of politics in it

    Also Pluto please for the love of God read some theory

            • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
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              7 months ago

              That's not the definition of a liberal.

              The working-class fought for democracy. It wasn't bequeathed on us BIPOC people by liberals or the bourgeois.

              Your mind is tainted by white leftist speak. I don't even care if you're BIPOC yourself. I deal with MAGAts near me every day.

                • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
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                  7 months ago

                  It was created by BIPOC and leftist people. If democracy didn't work, they wouldn't be taking it away right now.

                  • porcupine@lemmygrad.ml
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                    7 months ago

                    Damn guys, did you hear? BIPOC leftists created democracy in the form of a settler-colonial slave state built on the bones of a murdered indigenous population. You learn something new every day!

                    • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
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                      7 months ago

                      yeah

                      If it weren't for us, there wouldn't be any democracy and the bourgeois wouldn't be trying to take it away every day.

                      The only reason you can elect anyone is because of people like us

                      stalin-approval

                      • LesbianLiberty [she/her]
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                        7 months ago

                        In absolute awe of this take. There is no democracy that was won, simply pittances of control given to the few of us as a means of letting off revolutionary steam. The US did not become and never was democratic for the vast majority, only for the rich class, it's just that some still quite marginalized identities had small subsections allowed to ascend to the rich class.

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                        7 months ago

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                  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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                    7 months ago

                    The US was approaching democracy but it never actually reached that point. In order for the US to have ever been a democracy there are a lot of fundamental government structures that would have needed to be destroyed. The Electoral College is obvious, but also the Senate and the cap on House members and the fact that voting rights aren't guaranteed and the sabotage of public campaign finance and the fucking Supreme Court- the list goes on. The US never actually became a full democracy at any point in its history, you are being idealistic.

                    • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
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                      7 months ago

                      Nope.

                      Many communities of color rely on politicians on the local, municipal, and state level in order for much needed accommodations (such as Autistic people such as myself) and social welfare benefits.

                      They weren't bequeathed to us.

                      They were fought for and won.

                      If it weren't for us working-class folk, you wouldn't have the social welfare benefits you have, if you have any, whitey.

                      I don't want to hear about what the democratic system doesn't do right.

                      Because what it doesn't do right is due to the bourgeois.

                  • betelgeuse [comrade/them]
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                    7 months ago

                    It's a Greek word with an actual historical basis in reality, not just a word that you use to describe marginalized people winning concessions inside an empire. They invented democracy (for citizens), and of those citizens it was the wealthiest that took over everything. As soon as democracy was invented, it was used mystify class relations. You simply delivered some rhetoric about the benefits of democracy and ignored the actual power structure. It has nothing to do with freedom or people being able to live as they please or not being exploited by the wealthy.

                    That's centuries before European industrial capitalism let alone American industrial capitalism.

        • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
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          7 months ago

          Nope.

          A huge movement that is rolling back voting rights for people like me, Latino/as people and Black people and other people of color, is underway. Huge racial gerrymandering is underway.

          Every Republican and some Democrats (I live in a red state) supports the Jan. 6th insurrectionists.

          None of the people were arrested or were arrested for a few years and then had their sentenes revoked or shortened dramatically.

          • betelgeuse [comrade/them]
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            7 months ago

            I don't understand why you consider Jan 6 to be the defining moment in rolling back your rights but not the election of every other President or congressional body that stripped your rights. You think Jan 6 made your voting rights go away? What was Obama doing for 8 years to bolster your voting rights and keep it away from the fascists? What did they do with Bush after his election meddling?

            I know you're not ridin with Biden, my point is that you're hyperfocused on Jan 6 as being this historical moment of change when really your rights have been slowly stripped away during peaceful assembly of government decades before. Can you at least explain why Jan 6 is unique other than vibes and spectacle?

  • porcupine@lemmygrad.ml
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    7 months ago

    Listen here buckaroonies, tRump and his Russian handlers are TERRIFIED about you watching this documentary. Sinister MAGAite forces are conspiring to keep the Truth it contains from you, and pledging $5 to the Joe Biden campaign is the only chance we have to preserve our freedom to watch it.

  • itappearsthat
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    7 months ago

    I don't even have amazon prime so I would have had to pay to rent it anyway, subscriptionless chads stay winning

    edit: twenty bucks? lmfao hell no

  • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
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    7 months ago

    Here's the entire article:


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    The Sixth, a new documentary about the January 6 insurrection from an Oscar-winning filmmaking duo, was intended to be released on Amazon’s Prime Video. Instead, the A24 documentary is only available for premium rental, and the studio hasn’t even bothered with promoting it.

    Directed by Sean Fine and Andrea Nix Fine (LFG), and produced in collaboration with A24, The Sixth revisits the 2021 insurrection on the U.S. Capitol, led by far-right Trump supporters who believed the 2020 election was “stolen,” from the perspective of six public service workers: Maryland congressman Jamie Raskin, congressional aide Erica Loewe, photographer Mel D. Cole, and three police officers. On May 3—the day The Sixth was released—Politico published a report questioning the absence of marketing for the documentary and the strange, seemingly last-minute change in release strategy.

    Amazon denies having set a release date for The Sixth, but several people who spoke with Politico said they’d been told the documentary would be released on Prime Video—free to subscribers—on May 3. “The subjects were all told that the movie would be available on Prime starting at the beginning of May, and I was certainly telling that to people because the premiere was completely sold out,” Raskin told Politico. “I was telling people they’d be able to access it on Prime Video. And then the Fines told us that although that was the original understanding, it was now not going to be available for streaming on Prime Video and people would have to pay for it. That obviously will change by millions the number of people who will see it.”

    As journalist Michael Schaffer was putting the story together, he noticed that The Sixth was not included on A24’s website alongside other upcoming releases. When he reached out for comment, the film suddenly appeared on the website, where A24 describes it as “a testament to the importance of truth.” But how important can that truth be when A24 and/or Amazon is ensuring far fewer people are able to see it? The Sixth was, as promised, released on May 3. However, the Fines’ documentary is only available to rent, and only for the premium rental fee of $19.99.

    Although the Fines seemed hesitant to criticize A24, which bankrolled the doc for an undisclosed sum (per the report, the budget was likely in the seven-figure range), Sean Fine commented on the sudden release change:

    “We’re artists,” Sean Fine said. “You make something and somebody tells you it’s going to be in a museum — and then all of a sudden, it’s like, no, no, it’s only in this other room of the museum, and you have to pay more to go see it. You wonder why. Or if they say we’re going to keep your painting in a closet for a while and we’re going to bring it out when we think it’s good for people to see it. So it’s like, ‘Why is that?’”

    It’s particularly odd for A24 to shy away from a wider release push for The Sixth given its recent marketing efforts for Civil War, Alex Garland’s vision of a not-too-distant future in which the U.S., fractured by unspecified political issues, has devolved into war. As Schaffer notes in his reporting, The Sixth takes a similarly less granular approach to the politics of January 6, instead focusing on workers whose typical day at the office was violently upended by an insurrection.

    Is it that A24, a distributor known for releasing avant garde indies and challenging genre films, is apprehensive about alienating a large percentage of the general moviegoing public? That seems too dissonant to be true, though I suppose it could be. Or is it that Amazon, a company headed by a billionaire whose continued wealth relies on conservative politics, isn’t particularly inclined to ensure The Sixth is seen by the widest audience possible? That sounds more correct, but it still doesn’t explain why A24 isn’t promoting a film it invested millions of dollars in producing.

    As Schaffer writes for Politico, Amazon’s handling of The Sixth is a smart business decision, but that’s “a notion that ought to concern Americans of all stripes.”

    “A shared set of facts is pretty essential to a functioning society,” Schaffer continues. “We stopped getting our facts from the same place long ago, but burying something because it might anger people during election season seems bad in a new way.”

    With seven months until the 2024 presidential election, each day it becomes increasingly clear that we are laboring under the illusion of choice, and any narratives to the contrary—any authors who dare observe our political landscape with clear eyes—should either be dismissed by the right as wholesale fabrications or suppressed by the left for undermining the person we all have to vote for, or else.

    (featured image: A24)

    • buh [she/her]
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      7 months ago

      I already know the chapo episode reviewing this is gonna be called "Views From The Sixth"