It really just seems like fearmongering about things most marginalized people go through everyday. Is it just the same” old things will continue to get worse as a result of everything infinitely growing” that’s been happening since the US was founded? I saw some goon from the heritage foundation go on tv and threaten leftists but idk if it has crazy uncle energy or whether that’s something someone with actual power is thinking

  • makotech222 [he/him]
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    11 days ago

    imma be honest, it seems like a fake, entirely made up thing, like 'illegal immigrant caravans' type stories that spontaneously generate around election time. It'll be forgotten after the election and never heard from again. Like MS-13 stories.

    • RedWizard [he/him]
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      11 days ago

      Its a 1000 page document, it's very "real" in that sense. Its the platform formalized into a manifesto and a site that is collecting applications for true believers to fill positions.

      • makotech222 [he/him]
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        11 days ago

        cool but like, are there any mega-donors, rich people, politicians signing on? or just random chuds?

        • RedWizard [he/him]
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          11 days ago

          It's put up by the Heritage Foundation, one of the of not THE most influential think tanks in American politics. Responsible for the Reagan Doctrine, a key Reagan administration foreign policy initiative under which the U.S. began providing military and other support to anti-communist resistance movements fighting Soviet-aligned governments in Afghanistan, Angola, Cambodia, Nicaragua, and other nations during the final years of the Cold War.

          • makotech222 [he/him]
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            11 days ago

            i dunno man, the only people i see talking about it are incredulous libs on tiktok or twitter. I don't think i've seen any people with real power talk about supporting it. I mean, obviously some of it is stuff that repubs already support and whatever. But dems aren't going to do anything to stop it anyway, so I wouldn't worry about the election all that much.

            • RedWizard [he/him]
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              11 days ago

              The heritage foundation has a record of getting things done. You don't see anyone talking about it because they never do, not in the way libs talk about politics. They don't have to broadcast their desires via lawmakers, the talking points are already established and are working as intended. Project 2025 is not a doctrine for the voters, its an instruction manual for the next majority conservative government.

              The document talks about rooting out "Marxists" from the military and from academics. Obviously WE know their painting that label with a broad brush, but given their anticommunist history, and the fact that a large section of the document talks about dealing with various AES countries, its looking like were at least entering a new McCarthyism era in earnest.

              This is an angle that I haven't seen any libs discuss. If anything its a part of the program they likely agree with.

              Listen I'm not telling you this as some means of making you vote. I'm saying that the heritage foundation is a wining team. They have goals, they make plans for those goals, and they get them done. They do it with little fan fare. They are willing to take as long as they need reach their goals. They were willing to play the long game on abortion, and succeeded. They collaborated with the Federalist Society to plant the six conservative justices on the supreme courts (among countless lower court judges). They are more organized then either party, and vastly more organized then any kind of revolutionary leftist movement.

              They are absolutely the right's vanguard party. This is evident by how often the right directly implements their policy. The right does not elect thinkers. They do not elect intellectuals. The heritage foundation fills that role for them. Dems are not electing intellectuals either, but they also lack a similar org to feed them party programs. Not in the polar opposite location on the political spectrum anyway. Their think tanks live within the overton window and that's it.

              So my expectation is that, regardless of the outcome, Project 2025 is coming. Its simply a matter of if the heritage foundation need to shift the overton window more right or not. So expect a hot climate for the left in the near future.

              • makotech222 [he/him]
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                11 days ago

                well that's just what reactionaries want. That's like opening State and Revolution and going, oh no the communists have a plan to overthrow the state. Its not really surprising at all; its just a new name for it i guess?

                • RedWizard [he/him]
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                  11 days ago

                  Right, except the left has a book they've never read, but the right behaves like they've read the book, implement its ideas, except for their own bourgeois revolution. They have the benefit of being part of the state already, they just need to access all the levers of power at the same time. Which they basically have right now. They call it a revolution too. What that means to them, who can say. Expect the anticommunist action though. Maybe pack a bugout bag and learn your exits. Maybe that's hyperbolic. Time will tell.