Libs literally bending over backwards because they decided they liked him before they learned about his past. Voted 3rd party last time, almost was gonna vote for a lib this time but I've been called an antisemite so many times I just can't bring myself to voting for a guy that not only supports genocide but calls me a racist for opposing it!

Like you can't call me a racist and expect me to vote for your candidate. Makes no sense, but that's what the convo is gonna be the next three months lmao.

  • YourMom [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    But I was told that because there are 5x as many Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza as There were in 1967! So clearly I don't even know what genocide is and neither do you 😂

    • citrussy_capybara [ze/hir]
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      1 month ago

      kettling an entire country’s population from land being stolen into only two areas is going to lead to an increase in the number of people in those areas, yeah

      but the racist implication in such a “5x more than 60 years ago” is the Churchill “they breed like rabbits, so they actual need some genocide”

      • alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1 month ago

        Also, there are more Bosnians today than before the genocide against them. Genocide is not a numbers thing.

        And second, most people will say that Israel is guilty of apartheid and ethnic cleansing between 1948 and 2023.

        The genocide only started in 2023 after the attacks and is limited to Gaza.

        • robinnn
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          1 month ago

          https://thenewinquiry.com/blog/buffalo-skulls/

        • miz [any, any]
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          1 month ago

          the zionist entity has as a matter of policy intentionally rationed the amount of calories that get into Gaza to keep the population on the edge of hunger for almost two decades

        • miz [any, any]
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          1 month ago

          Operation Cast Thy Bread was a zionist covert operation which poisoned the wells of Palestinians with biological warfare agents like typhus and dysentery as part of the Nakba in 1948

          it didn't start in 2023

      • iminsomuchpainv2 [he/him]
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        1 month ago

        I don't know much about this, but I've heard something anecdotal via radio war nerd that is related. The war nerd used to live in East Timor, not long after the genocide there, and he happened to witness a huge transition in the birth rate. Apparently the native population had a high birth rate during and immediately following the genocidal period which rapidly fell off not long afterwards. It's an interesting phenomenon that I haven't heard an anthropological explanation/discussion of, but perhaps there is a kind of communal response to this acute collective trauma that is inflicted on some populations.

        Perhaps it is better to discuss the Palestinian population by age demographic rather than just the number of Palestinians. My understanding was that prior to 10/7 approximately half of the Gaza strip's population was 18 or younger. No doubt some of that is explained by a reduced life expectancy for Gazans but there also must be a decent number of children being born.

        • Greenleaf [he/him]
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          1 month ago

          This is a phenomenon that occurs very frequently during and immediately after genlcides.

          • iminsomuchpainv2 [he/him]
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            1 month ago

            Do you know of any research on this? It matches my intuition that this could happen but I'd be curious if sociologists/anthropologists had taken a look

            • Greenleaf [he/him]
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              1 month ago

              No, I’ve just heard it talked about before 10/7 even happened.