Hitting the gym to become a swoletariat, looking to arm myself as well.

I've gone shooting before, and my Dad just bought a couple guns himself because of all the pogroms he's been seeing against Muslims in ingerland.

I'm based in the United States of Amerikkka, mods please let me know if this isn't allowed!

  • footfaults
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    1 month ago

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      • propter_hog [any, any]
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        4 months ago

        Second alternative: sawed off 12 gauge. No load can beat the shere stopping power of 00 buckshot.

        Edit to add: and no fear of missing and putting a hole through your neighbor's house across the street.

          • propter_hog [any, any]
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            4 months ago

            The shortened barrel is intended for point blank usage, such as a home invasion scenario. It's easier to get the gun up and harder for the assailant to push the gun to the side using the barrel, or worse, to pull it out of your hands. The gun I had in mind particularly is the Mossberg 590M. With that "doohickey" you also have the option of having up to 20 rounds in a magazine, but I've heard those have a higher jam rate than the 10-shot mags.

              • propter_hog [any, any]
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                4 months ago

                I feel like I've misled you somehow. I wasn't meaning literally saw it off yourself. I meant buy one that has a short barrel.

            • Babs [she/her]
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              4 months ago

              Would it not be better to use a gun with actual sights that you can aim and use at an actual distance if needed? Handguns are more maneuverable and much better to aim. Also no dealing with the laws around short-barrel shotguns.

              Even at point blank, a shotgun is a worse choice than a rifle or handgun.

                • Babs [she/her]
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                  4 months ago

                  Higher risk of overpenetration (00 shoots 9mm pellets, which retain a lot more energy through walls than lightweight 556 does), higher risk of failing to cycle (recoil powered shotguns need to be tuned right, gas powered ones are spendy), and you definitely should not shoot without properly aiming in any situation, that'd be massively irresponsible.

                  It can work, but it has disadvantages that a rifle does not, and no real benefits over one.

      • EmoThugInMyPhase [he/him]
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        4 months ago

        I think DA/SA with a decocker is a good middle ground. You don’t need to worry about turning off the safety like a striker fire, but the trigger will be heavy and you can thumb the hammer which makes it impossible for the gun to go off.

        But M&P 2.0 is very good as well. The models with thumb safeties are usually cheaper as well since they’re not as popular as just the trigger safety.

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      • Kestrel [comrade/them]
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        4 months ago

        If you're looking to CC then aim for the micro compact segment. They have a good round count while being slimmer and easier to conceal than "compact" guns like the Glock 19. There are a ton of models in this space but there aren't a ton that have safeties that many of us would recommend to a newer shooter. If you're budget minded I would recommend the Taurus G3C, which can easily be had for under $300. But definitely put hands on it and try to get range time with it before your purchase.