I'd been thinking Telegram would be a sufficiently secure alternative, but as Western intelligence gets their hooks into that system I think we need to go self-hosted. Element is the biggest name here, but I'm curious what options are the best for a combination of both security and feature maturity.

  • Cutecity [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    Just take note that Matrix was originally developped by Amdocs, an israeli multinational with ties to the state intelligence. They made a foundation to pursue further development, but apparently the staff is the same. It might not mean much, but many people don't know about it.

    • gay_king_prince_charles [she/her, he/him]
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      2 months ago

      Matrix also also really, really bad when it comes to metadata. I would not trust Matrix when it comes to sensitive things or communication that can be used against you due to how much metadata it leaks. I also find the double standard here were people don't trust Signal due to funding but ignore funding issues in Matrix.

    • Chronicon [they/them]
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      2 months ago

      good to know. I still feel their open-source practices and lack of centralization puts them above signal in some ways, but yikes...