I'm back and honestly, I'm only madder than I was two days ago because I've had time to mull the bullshit over. Link, for those of y'all out of the know.
It appalls me that any community of people that claim to be marxists, that claim to follow the scientific method in all things that would contribute to the betterment of the world we're forced to share, that claim to be really out here performing praxis and making differences in their communities; it fucking galls me that a community like everything I just described can still look at a still on-going pandemic and still have such a tacit anti-mask stance.
More of you admitted to not masking than I'm comfortable with and y'know what, maybe we could've left it at that. It'd have been a form of liberalism to not dig my heels in on that and take a swing at that mindset because again: I took on a new disability in the wake of a COVID infection. My partner took on a new disability in the wake of their infection. I was put in a hospital bed, my grandparents were put on respirators, so many members of my family and my community were genuinely out of commission and a good number of us really had to question if we were going to make it to see the next morning under those infections-- but maybe, we could've left it at that.
But then, I have to see you people not only trying to justify it, but taking up for smuggards who just think it's all some big fuckin joke, like they're their favorite podcast crackerbro getting to have their own personal Matt Christman moment. I expect "u mad bro" smuglord fuckery out of crackers who can't even be trusted to properly wipe their asses after they shit, or to wash their hands after doing so. And worse, you expect me to not be heated about smug-assed crackers making light of genuinely-disabling infections after the fact.
I stand ten motherfucking toes down on what I said to Cantaloupe Ass and Ghost of Faso; any plague rat motherfucker who wants to take issue with how I feel about people who won't mask can catch the same cases my partners and my family caught. It's a whole lot of you motherfuckers that are so unserious, so emphatically not my comrades that it sickens me seeing you call yourselves so.
Do better. Deuces.
Yours might be one of the only replies in this thread I plan to reply to, because I plan to massively cut down on how much I interact with this fed. I have no further faith in the moderation here, and lost a good deal of respect for a good number of regulars here in the doing.
This is maybe the only place where I could see one having a genuine issue; and y'know what? That's fine that that's your take.
I've already had to watch it ravage my community. There's people I knew that don't come around anymore. Became agoraphobic. That's not even talking the people that did die in my community, and their families still feel those holes to this day. Most of the people in my personal orbit, I thank the divinities I pray to every day that they survived-- but not a one came away without something permanent left behind. Brainfog, asthma-resembling hacking fits, compromised immune systems, the works. I wouldn't feel so comfortable saying what I did to someone if I didn't already know, down to the scars at the bottoms of my lungs, what this disease does to the people who are lucky enough to have survived it.
Way I see it, if (the hypothetical) you're going to be as indifferent to death as to take up for anti-maskers, I'm going to be indifferent to what happens to (the hypothetical) you, because there is nothing that can unite us at that point. In fact, it's my hope that surviving a tribulation like that might actually inspire a level of understanding of why I approach this the way I do; but gods only know I'm already out of reasons to unite with the average settler so it is what it is.
Edits for clarity.
"I’ve already had to watch it ravage my community. There’s people I knew that don’t come around anymore. Became agoraphobic. That’s not even talking the people that did die in my community, and their families still feel those holes to this day. Most of the people in my orbit, they survived-- but not a one came away without something permanent left behind. Brainfog, asthma-resembling hacking fits, compromised immune systems, the works. I wouldn’t feel so comfortable saying what I did to someone if I didn’t already know, down to the scars at the bottoms of my lungs, what this disease does to the people who are lucky enough to have survived it"
As did I.
"Way I see it, if you’re going to be as indifferent to death as to take up for anti-maskers"
The way I see it is that you're staring at something as brutally indifferent and deadly as disease and are advocating it upon anti-maskers who will then infect others who may, even by chance, infect people who truly do mask or take preventative measures. Nowhere am I standing up for them.
"I’m going to be indifferent to what happens to you"
So quickly. A shame. I can't say the same. Peace to you.
I don't have much to say in this struggle session, but I do need to address this. Non/anti maskers are already infecting others, who are infecting others, etc. until people who are actually taking preventative measures may be infected. Plague rats choking to death on their own mucus, waterboarding style, would just be them suffering the consequences of the actions they're already doing. Your concern wrt the indifference to death is still valid, but I doubt nurglers suffering from more severe COVID symptoms would affect the spread appreciably; it'd arguably even reduce it since they won't be able to go out and spread it co others.
That's part of the point. We know COVID isn't always "severe". That's what is insidious about it and any other disease that could follow.
edit: not always severe as in can cause long-term issues and other plethora of afflictions instead of death. Maiming instead of killing.
Nor do I think you do; made slight edits to emphasize that the 'you' in my bit there is a hypothetical quantity, not meant to call you to the front directly on that.