• BashfulBob [none/use name]
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    2 months ago

    That's dated. Like pointing to the Romanovs and complaining about the dark legacy of Russian imperialism.

    The Spanish Civil War, combined with the Catalonian independence struggle, has turned Spanish politics on its head over the last century. They're much better today than the Brits (who cling desperately to their imperial legacy) or the French (who keep trying to reinvent the Bourbon Dynasty) simply by virtue of not being a country full of fucking Monarchists.

    • Lussy [any, hy/hym]
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      2 months ago

      Franco was in power until the 1970's, I'm sorry but this is ridiculous. It's one of the most fascist and racist countries in the entirety of the West.

      • BashfulBob [none/use name]
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        2 months ago

        Franco was in power until the 1970's

        He was fighting insurgencies well into the 1960s. Then he passed a civil war in Basque Country to his successors, who fought insurrections into 2011. Spain is a fractured mess of competing local interests. It isn't a globe-spanning empire run out of a state department in Madrid.

        It's one of the most fascist and racist countries in the entirety of the West.

        Its one of the least consequential European states, in large part because of how internally divided it continues to be. There are definitely fascists in Spain and quite a few of them are in high office. But is your average Spanish fascist more consequential than Erdogan in Turkey or Trudeau in Canada or Modi in India or Yoon Suk Yeol in South Korea? More consequential than the Mayor of New York? Not even close.

        Since 1990, you'd be hard pressed to name a PM in Spain half as fascist as Tony Blair.

        • Lussy [any, hy/hym]
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          2 months ago

          How is India comsequential? It’s one of the poorest countries on the planet, they haven’t had a colonial presence for at least half a millenia

          • BashfulBob [none/use name]
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            2 months ago

            How is India comsequential?

            The country with 1/6th the world's population, located at the center of the largest continent and playing host to both enormous technological and manufacturing logistical hubs?

            The nuclear armed power that put a probe on Mars for $75M? The ultra-national religious wedge between the Islamic states and China?

            Can't think of any reasons.

          • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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            2 months ago

            How is India consequential

            What 0 theory does to a MF

            India is a BRICS member, has enormous importance in light industry, agriculture, the service industry, and is a major military power. The suggestion that a nuclear power with the literal highest population on Earth is less consequential than Spain is pretty unserious.