Chocolate Underground

With the establishment of the Good For You Party's authoritarian regime, unhealthy foods and sugar have been banned. As a result, the bakery Smudger Moore's father owns is suffering financially from being unable to sell any of their typical sweet menu items. Smudger's friend Huntley Hunter is also frustrated by the prohibition, as he cannot keep a promise he made to his late father. Angered by the unjust world they live in, the two young boys set out to break the new social order—but the uphill battle they are faced with is a lot more than they bargained for.

-MAL

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  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 hours ago

    I'm not being evasive here. I do not support the banning of sugar. It'd be almost entirely futile to try even if I wanted to and had some sort of political position where I could try to make it happen. The production of sugar is a concern of mine, as is the corporate empires that command its production and distribution, but that falls outside of @Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net's take, though perhaps it still fits within the basis of this thread's topic considering the heavy-handed "no veggies at dinner, no bedtimes" baby libertarian idealism that seems apparent at a glance in "Chocolate Underground."

    i was more concerned about the implication it just shouldn't be in baked goods at all, like straight up banned, because of the context of the weird anime and the whole 'if you can't make it taste good without sugar' sort of vibe. criticizing it as an industry as well as it's pervasiveness in almost every product produced that people eat is not just reasonable but an obligation we all have.

    None of that is my take, even now. When the person you're arguing with comes back from exams, feel free to direct that anger there. Or don't. I'd suggest the latter.

    • EelBolshevikism [none/use name]
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      2 hours ago

      well, thank you for replying to me despite my hostility. at this point i highly doubt dirt_owl intended to make any point like the one i was saying i was concerned with. this seems like a classic case of my inner reactionary falling for the framing of cringe propaganda like the weird anime, as i realize i was thinking in that sense (as in, accepting it's inflammatory rhetoric) this entire time despite disagreeing with the depiction of regulation it seems to have. i'm considering deleting my comments but i don't want to remove that responsibility or shame entirely. i might just leave this one up only, so that dirt_owl doesn't have to come back to three or four comments yelling at them.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        2 hours ago

        I appreciate your reply. I can only speak for my own take, but maybe there is something worth arguing with with @Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net after all, if hopefully from a less incendiary position. It isn't my take to argue; I don't even know what western baking goods would look like without sugar (pre-colonial honey, maybe?).

        • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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          57 minutes ago

          Yeah, go for it guys. I'm more than okay with people educating me when I say something silly. People are more than welcome to disagree with me on this one.

        • EelBolshevikism [none/use name]
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          2 hours ago

          there ARE genuinely tasty vegan non-sugar sweeteners that afaik don't even feed into diabetic conditions so i have no idea what i'm arguing about in the first place

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            2 hours ago

            I somehow forgot about those myself until now.

            I'm not actually that big into sweets in general; I prefer other flavors overall, even for pleasure/comfort food.

            • EelBolshevikism [none/use name]
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              60 minutes ago

              ok, maybe there is a point to be made about banning Big Sugar

              edit: ok, but seriously, neither you nor @Dirt_Owl deserved that. I'm really sorry. I hope both of you are happy and safe and don't let my cringeposting drag you down or hurt you. Thank you all for being patient