The problem isn't our "dialogue" the problem is that we're latched to the hip with a dollar store version of 4chan made up of uniquely uneducated people who thought post-2020 reddit was too "woke", and we as a forum have a bad case of denial about it, because frankly it's a little embarrassing in terms of association

Yeah, that's a better way to put it. I was trying to be diplomatic but the topic at hand is too far severe to give anyone the benefit of the doubt.