I've been trying to tell people for the last like five years that this is what's under the cracker liberal's mask. These are the same exact lynch-mobbing klansmen that the Republicans are; difference is a Democrat will call out for UberLynchings-- I mean, the cops and ICE to bloody their hands for them.
I know, and I agree. I can see that now, far clearer than before, this space has been very helpful for me personally in killing the inner cracker and inner liberal I have, along with dating my fiancé, a woman of color. Every day that passes, every new bit of disgusting history I read, hammers in just how fucking ignorant I was and still am, coasting on a worldview I percieved as "normal."
Honestly, my fiancé was the biggest part of this process, she has never been afraid of telling me when I was ignorant or privledged. I love her dearly, without her I'd likely be far more ignorant. Every that looks at us with disdain simply for holding hands in public boils my blood, and I know that that's only a microscopic fraction of what she has had to deal with, and others too.
I dunno, this was a bit of a ramble. I try to call out activities when I can and stress the importance of intersectionality, getting libs and "leftists" to read decolonial and anti-settler theory to try to set things on a better path with these fuckers.
Nah, g, I feel you. The more I learn about your persona on this forum, the more it makes sense how you have gotten to and are getting to where you're at. Frankly, I didn't think it possible of white folk to shut the fuck up and listen to someone less advantaged than them. Understand, that ain't a jawn on you as a singular person, but that I have had a very long history of living through cracker bullshit, attempting to educate said crackers, and finding out my words were just going in one ear and out the other after a few months-- 's why my stance is "I don't educate crackers anymore; I just drag 'em".
From where I stand, if one of them suddenly gets it through dragging, cool. Percussive maintenance has been known to work on machines before; but I'm not really hoping for or expecting it anymore. Your S/O is doing the work of the saints; and bless you for actually having the wherewithal to listen to her. Shit, she prolly more on her deen than I am.
I hear you. I even made a comment in the general thread a while ago about how I really need to shut the fuck up and listen more. I'm not trying to pull a "I'm one of the good ones, praise me " bullshit common on the left and in libs alike. I have no right to tell you what to think or feel, even if I personally must believe that we can de-cracker white people by tearing from under us the materialist base that leads to the cracker superstructure, that doesn't mean I can just say "you're wrong" for what you believe based on your lived experience on the opposite end of that spectrum.
I normally try to back you up when I can because you cede no ground, it's largely why I am (still in the early parts, life is personally wild right now) reading Settlers. I have a very personal need to hope that I can at least partially redeem other white people, because if I can't, then I can't redeem myself even partially. It's a selfish, internal reason. If my fiancé and I ever have kids, they will be half-white, half-POC. They will face their own struggles accordingly. Even if we don't have kids, I dearly love my fiancé, and need to do my damndest to make this world a safer and more just place for her.
I appreciate your words, and understand your viewpoint, I just want to stress that the largest factor in my viewpoint is becoming personally involved. I don't know how to truly translate that for people who aren't. I was kind of hoping each of the communities for marginalized people, like em_poc, could do the same as womenby with posting basic theory to emphasize de-colonialism and anti-white supremacy, like they did with adding The Gender Accelerationist Manifesto.
Thanks for listening to my ramble! And yes, my fiancé is amazing.
I was kind of hoping each of the communities for marginalized people, like em_poc, could do the same as womenby with posting basic theory to emphasize de-colonialism and anti-white supremacy, like they did with adding The Gender Accelerationist Manifesto.
This is actually a really good idea; it's just a matter of collating a good, comprehensive list together over here. I'd love to get a reading group started here, but real life's got too many coils wrapped around me rn for me to be really on the ball and active bout it
I think so too (obviously), but I shouldn't be the one to push for it, nor do I think I am a good person to come up with a good list. I think the results of the recent misogyny "struggle sesh" and subsequent purges and introduction of theory as a strong push from the moderators and admins can be carried over to other communities. There are a lot of new leftists that can be guided that otherwise may just stick to Marx/Engels/Lenin or Kropotkin/Goldman etc in ways that personally benefit themselves, when intersectionality in my opinion will be the foundation of any truly successful leftist movement, especially in the Imperial Core.
I've been trying to tell people for the last like five years that this is what's under the cracker liberal's mask. These are the same exact lynch-mobbing klansmen that the Republicans are; difference is a Democrat will call out for
UberLynchings-- I mean, the cops and ICE to bloody their hands for them.I know, and I agree. I can see that now, far clearer than before, this space has been very helpful for me personally in killing the inner cracker and inner liberal I have, along with dating my fiancé, a woman of color. Every day that passes, every new bit of disgusting history I read, hammers in just how fucking ignorant I was and still am, coasting on a worldview I percieved as "normal."
Honestly, my fiancé was the biggest part of this process, she has never been afraid of telling me when I was ignorant or privledged. I love her dearly, without her I'd likely be far more ignorant. Every
that looks at us with disdain simply for holding hands in public boils my blood, and I know that that's only a microscopic fraction of what she has had to deal with, and others too.
I dunno, this was a bit of a ramble. I try to call out
activities when I can and stress the importance of intersectionality, getting libs and "leftists" to read decolonial and anti-settler theory to try to set things on a better path with these fuckers.
Nah, g, I feel you. The more I learn about your persona on this forum, the more it makes sense how you have gotten to and are getting to where you're at. Frankly, I didn't think it possible of white folk to shut the fuck up and listen to someone less advantaged than them. Understand, that ain't a jawn on you as a singular person, but that I have had a very long history of living through cracker bullshit, attempting to educate said crackers, and finding out my words were just going in one ear and out the other after a few months-- 's why my stance is "I don't educate crackers anymore; I just drag 'em".
From where I stand, if one of them suddenly gets it through dragging, cool. Percussive maintenance has been known to work on machines before; but I'm not really hoping for or expecting it anymore. Your S/O is doing the work of the saints; and bless you for actually having the wherewithal to listen to her. Shit, she prolly more on her deen than I am.
I hear you. I even made a comment in the general thread a while ago about how I really need to shut the fuck up and listen more. I'm not trying to pull a "I'm one of the good ones, praise me
" bullshit common on the left and in libs alike. I have no right to tell you what to think or feel, even if I personally must believe that we can de-cracker white people by tearing from under us the materialist base that leads to the cracker superstructure, that doesn't mean I can just say "you're wrong" for what you believe based on your lived experience on the opposite end of that spectrum.
I normally try to back you up when I can because you cede no ground, it's largely why I am (still in the early parts, life is personally wild right now) reading Settlers. I have a very personal need to hope that I can at least partially redeem other white people, because if I can't, then I can't redeem myself even partially. It's a selfish, internal reason. If my fiancé and I ever have kids, they will be half-white, half-POC. They will face their own struggles accordingly. Even if we don't have kids, I dearly love my fiancé, and need to do my damndest to make this world a safer and more just place for her.
I appreciate your words, and understand your viewpoint, I just want to stress that the largest factor in my viewpoint is becoming personally involved. I don't know how to truly translate that for people who aren't. I was kind of hoping each of the communities for marginalized people, like em_poc, could do the same as womenby with posting basic theory to emphasize de-colonialism and anti-white supremacy, like they did with adding The Gender Accelerationist Manifesto.
Thanks for listening to my ramble! And yes, my fiancé is amazing.
This is actually a really good idea; it's just a matter of collating a good, comprehensive list together over here. I'd love to get a reading group started here, but real life's got too many coils wrapped around me rn for me to be really on the ball and active bout it
I think so too (obviously), but I shouldn't be the one to push for it, nor do I think I am a good person to come up with a good list. I think the results of the recent misogyny "struggle sesh" and subsequent purges and introduction of theory as a strong push from the moderators and admins can be carried over to other communities. There are a lot of new leftists that can be guided that otherwise may just stick to Marx/Engels/Lenin or Kropotkin/Goldman etc in ways that personally benefit themselves, when intersectionality in my opinion will be the foundation of any truly successful leftist movement, especially in the Imperial Core.