After my last machine decided to stop functioning properly, somebody recommended that I build my own PC because it is cheaper than buying a prefab, and apparently the process is pretty easy, even easier than building a LEGO set! This is the biggest mistake that I made all season. He convinced me that I could handle it and I failed to handle it.

First of all, I don't understand why anyone thinks that offering a how-to guide like this one on assembling a computer is a good idea. That is about as reasonable as giving someone a guide on how to fix an engine, as if a Yugo's engine is identical to a sports car's (yeah, right). Unless the reader or listener happens to have all of the exact same parts as the author, the guide is next to useless. There is no point.

Computers vary massively in layout and accessories. I hate to state the obvious, but you can't just toss any fucking how-to guide at a beginner and expect them to understand and follow it perfectly. These guides, much like the official manuals, are dense and loaded with jargon, showing us crap that we don't have and crap that isn't where we expect to find it.

Here's a good example: somebody told me that I needed a large screw to secure a stick. At first I thought that I had to order another part since I lacked that, but it turned out that the screw that I had was just obnoxiously tiny. Almost microscopic. Even my long-distance assistant said that it 'looked wrong' when he saw it, but it did the trick.

Likewise, it is ridiculously easy to plug something the wrong way, which can potentially fry your machine. My computer also came with a load of crap that I apparently didn't need, which is fine for compatibility but ends up making the process more confusing and intimidating.

This hardware is both delicate and expensive to replace, too, which means that if you fuck up, it's a big deal (unless you're rich). It was only after I finally took my machine to a technician that I learned that I broke two parts beyond repair, meaning that now I have to spend about $300 on repair and extra parts for a plan that originally cost me $600. I could have purchased a good prefab with all that fucking money!

Look, just don't tell anybody that assembling a computer is easy, and especially don't tell beginners to try it without constant, immediate-distance supervision. (Long-distance supervision is still too risky.) The process is so delicate and there are so many ways to make serious mistakes that it isn't worth it, and anybody who finds a guide or manual unhelpful is going to be very tempted to improvise, which is dangerous. I actually made my fingers bleed trying to assemble a computer (no joke), and I wasted hundreds of dollars that I could have spent on a cheap, prefabricated gaming computer instead. I feel very frustrated tonight, and I am stuck on my smartphone for another week or two.

  • a_little_red_rat [he/him, comrade/them]
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    4 days ago

    I literally have an engineering degree and I find building PCs annoying bc there are so many small annoying steps that are usually glossed over, and I don't do it regularly enough to learn it all - I haven't done it in over 5 years by now and I bet a lot of stuff has changed. It is extremely delicate too, and since processes change every 5-10 years, you never know if the RAM die should already have clicked in or if you beed to push harder or if you're about to break it bc you're actually pushing it the wrong way. GPU power connectors are weird and honestly badly designed, why not actually feed the power from the mobo directly, redesign that standard so you can skip the extra connectors.

    There is also always some shitty esoteric step that nobody mentions, like attaching the small speaker the correct way or the front panel hijinks, or back in the day setting the disk jumpers right, but it's still stuff you need to do. Prefabs suck but I understand why people buy them when the self-build community is hostile towards people who don't already know what to do.

    And that's beside the issue of the hardware parts themselves. Spending hours researching the best combinations of components, having to learn the latest advances and compatibilities, I just don't feel like it anymore. I liked "tech" shit like this but actually working in tech sapped it all out, I want shit to simply work already lol. Oh, also good luck with compatibility on linux, enjoy spending a few days trying to set up the drivers right.

    It's just easier with laptops, and I honestly can do without newer games

    • FuckBigTech347@lemmygrad.ml
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      3 days ago

      GPU power connectors are weird and honestly badly designed, why not actually feed the power from the mobo directly, redesign that standard so you can skip the extra connectors.

      I agree. All the current PC power connectors are shit. Fuck Molex. Most power lines are redundant anyways. Also imo a GPU shouldn't need more than 100W just to do a bunch of triangle fills with fancy lighting on top.

      Also lol PC speakers. Nobody needs that IBM PC leftover anymore. I never plug those in unless I want check if a machine is braindead or not. At least on Lenovo PCs they double as a regular speaker.

      Oh, also good luck with compatibility on linux, enjoy spending a few days trying to set up the drivers right.

      Maybe 5-10 years ago this was more true but on modern Linux common x86 hardware generally just works out of the box. If you have an AMD or Intel GPU you don't need to do anything because the Kernel and mesa-lib have the drivers built in. It's only NVidia.

    • lorty@lemmygrad.ml
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      3 days ago

      I certainly understand the need for things to just work, specially as I've been getting older, but it's funny to me that most of what you complained about is crap that doesn't matter, specially if you just want a system that just works.

      MOBO speaker? Optional, and pointless if you are not going to listen to the beeps. Front panel connectors? If you cheapened out on the case you sre probably better leaving them disconnected. Pushing the RAM the wrong way? Literally not possible.

      Also pushing 400W or whatever through the mobo and to the GPU is probably a design nightmare, although I agree the way GPU connectors are placed make 0 sense.

      Also linux is as easy as it's ever been, even if nvidia makes things a bit harder.

    • bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml
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      4 days ago

      GPU power doesn't go through the motherboard because it's too freaking much power. There are some cards that can be powered just over pcie but I think the limit is 75 watts

      • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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        3 days ago

        GPU power doesn't go through the motherboard

        wait so where's mine going then

        there's only one cable attached to it and that's the display monitor cable

        • cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml
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          3 days ago

          I'm not an expert on the subject but that doesn't sound like something you'd want to do. Modern graphics cards are just too power hungry. Running high power currents through your motherboard that has fairly sensitive components seems like a bad idea when you can just have a separate power cable to your graphics card that can be as beefy as you need it to be.

          • MattsAlt [comrade/them]
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            3 days ago

            You'd also introduce an incredible amount of noise running any sort of supply like that on the board. Interference is a big issue with these denser and denser electronics

        • bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml
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          3 days ago

          Thermally and for the components' longevity this is not a good plan. RTX xx90 cards can straight up melt the power connector because of the amount of power involved. If that also ruins your motherboard, which has to be more expensive to deliver power to such a GPU, you will no longer think this is a good idea and come back here crying about how your $700 motherboard and $2000 GPU both let out the magic smoke.

    • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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      3 days ago

      It's just easier with laptops, and I honestly can do without newer games

      the problem is that you need 32 GB RAM and faster processors to load the bloated-to-fuck websites where literally anyone ever spends any of their time

    • Saeculum [he/him, comrade/them]
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      3 days ago

      but I understand why people buy them when the self-build community is hostile towards people who don't already know what to do.

      Most of the complaints I see are from people who refuse to read the instructions (and actually thoroughly read them, not just skim) before trying something. Complain about jargon all you like, you have Google, and you're not stupid, I have no sympathy.

      Oh, also good luck with compatibility on linux, enjoy spending a few days trying to set up the drivers right.

      Linux is not something you do if comparability and ease of use is important to you.