I escaped the Reddit regime a little while ago. I consider myself a marxist-leninist-MZT. Vegetarian and vegan for a few years. I've a lot of thoughts on how marxism and veganism are connected. Never wrote them down. I'd like to start smth like a club for marxist vegans to develop our own proletarian theory. Most vegan theory I found is either openly bourgeois (Francione is a literal TERF) or revisionist (anti-China, anarchist, libertarian). How about fixing this?
Are you really going to turn to Travis the chimpanzee for your moral compass?
That one was on drugs. My moral compass would be bear, don't try to present me like an Orca or Mantis in terms of it.
Are you saying that sober apes are known for being good role models?
Orangutans are pretty chill, also gorillas if you don't anger them.
So basically, because orangutans are "pretty chill", and they can catch and eat fish without it causing them any apparent moral distress, it's OK for human beings to eat fish, too...? Isn't that sort of circular reasoning? And why should orangutans' conception of morality have any impact on humans', anyway?
In any case, my own stance is that the idea that some people deserve suffering and "that's just the way it is", necessitates equating those people with animals — often explicitly — and the indoctrination that animals are a category of creature deserving of violence and subjugation, starts on a child's plate.
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?
I mentioned Orangutans and Gorillas just because you implied all apes are bad. Orangutans are some of the most chill creatures and you're presenting simply eating a fish equal to Orca taking a seal, torturing it on and on for hours by playing waterpolo with it(while it's still alive) before ditching it's body after it took parts it likes the most, or Mantis pulling off limbs of it's prey, decapitating it's own mate and eating it. Yes, eating fish is perfectly ok for every carnivore and omnivore species on the planet. Nature isn't a fucking Disney movie.
Well, nazis for example pretty much deserve suffering, wouldn't you agree? Who even mentioned humans?
I keep being tempted to reply but at this point it's clear you're just a tedious sophist and I'm just wasting my time and driving myself to misery with this nonsense.
Because I genuinely don't see what point are you even trying to make and why do you bother with this in the first place. Who even brought humans into this?