i wish no harm to american ruling class, my enemy is the american people

op admits it was a joke originally, but says after witnessing the contempt of the american people for gaza, is sad to say his joke was correct (unless i'm misreading this)

the user posting_forever writes "yeah well welcome to what happens when your country bombs and threatens half of the earth. feels pretty shitty, huh?"

barbarism critic continues their thread "If you have posted this as a joke that’s one thing, but there’s wayyyy too much of this sentiment expressed sincerely on here and as a signifier of being the “most radical”. It is not! It is poorly disguised misanthropy and nihilism!"

one person say that barbarism critic is "the brianna wu of 2025. Remember kids I called it"

i guess there is some very real perceived material interests of americans to continue the genocide in palestine, like the christian zionists, or the liberals who want to continue the american dominance via global hegemony, and the labor aristocrats in america who want the treats.

i was listening to rev left radio "The Long Transition Towards Socialism and the End of Capitalism" with Torkil Lauesen and, probably gonna butcher it - but my understanding is that as we enter a multipolar world, the americans will not be able to blatantly exploit the over-exploited nations (global south) leading to increasingly deteriorating conditions in the imperial core, which will set the grounds very clearly between socialism and barbarism?

and we are to organize and help alleviate the woes of the people which also serve as a way of building relations that lead to building power via organizations.

(iirc the bolsheviks has above ground orgs and underground orgs for the law breaking stuff)

eh i dunno just over analyzing what do you peeps think.

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    10 hours ago

    At a certain point, many people of diverse backgrounds who languish under American yoke, WILL eventually ask themselves; do I want to die, to suffer, to burn my life for a people who will put me in a concentration camp?

    It's a self-evident truth; solidarity has to be a two-way street, otherwise it dies, simple as

    • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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      8 hours ago

      There's an interesting dialectic here because the literal meaning of solidarity is to help without expecting anything in return. It originally is the farthest thing from a two-way street. However, it's obviously true from a political perspective that there is absolutely no reason to expect socialists in the Global South to have solidarity for the people who act as the consumer base of a genocidal empire. How is it even possible to promote international solidarity when, as the situation stands, the white proletariat in the imperial core quite literally sits comfortably on the necks of the international working class? I feel like the concept of solidarity just doesn't apply in a situation that's so asymmetric.

      • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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        7 hours ago

        The answer lies in capitalism's propensity to destroy the working classes of both the north and south, and it's tendency to accumulate contradictions while it manages the crises born out of the asymmetric north/south divide

        Eventually as those contradictions build up, the supply chain that sustains the comfort base of the empire will break down and the true condition of the north will manifest

        At that point the divide becomes moot, because without any bubbles sustaining the illusion the two working classes will naturally seek alliances with each other against whatever imperial monstrosity emerges to try and reconstruct the divide. Imperial reconstruction that will require the north be subjected to torturous militarization and rationing

        Of course this is all just hypothesizing, and it could just as easily end in nuclear holocaust.......