I've been speaking with other more informed communists and they've told me that none actually exist. Is this true?

China, Laos, and Vietnam: now notoriously capitalists. Workers work 12+ hours with no protection in horrible factory conditions. Suicide rates are so high that suicide nets are installed. The air is so polluted millions die from lung cancer, especially factory workers w/out basic masks. Corporations dominate

North Korea: Undemocratically ruled by the Kim dynasty. Jong un indulges lavishly at the expense of his citizens, ordering millions in fine wine and trips from Denis Rodman. They might be the most socialist though, as Juche seems to otherwise be democratic.

Cuba: Sanctions have taken a massive toll, but even taking that into account the country still has its own problems. They have massive food shortages and inventory probs and aren't self sufficient after 60+ years. Why couldn't they've use machinery imported from the Soviet Union to develop their agriculture and fishery? The Soviets supported them heavily. They seem to be incredibly mismanaged or corrupt

  • anarchost@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Okay, so regarding democracy, when you said you didn't vote to allow a genocide in Gaza, were you saying a vote should have been taken, thus making the United States a more democratic country?

    If that's the case, then we agree that more democracy is good. If that's not the case, why did you bring it up?

    • Maoo [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Okay, so regarding democracy, when you said you didn't vote to allow a genocide in Gaza, were you saying a vote should have been taken, thus making the United States a more democratic country?

      I was giving an example to challenge common presumptions about what is democratic and what something with that labels can then be used to justify. The idea is to get you to think critically and ask your own questions about what the true meaning of that label is by how it gets applied. It's not about what is simply true democracy and what is not. It's what function the term and concept serves in our societies, particularly Western ones where it is used chauvinistically and is full of contradictions. Nothing can be more "authoritarian" (the other half of this concept's dichotomy) than inflicting mass death and disposession and there isn't even a fig leaf of requiring informed consent from the people of the state that's supporting the genocide you see happening right in front of you. At the same time, the label of "democracy" is used everywhere to justify these dehumanizing, racist actions. Have you ever heard, "only democracy in the Middle East"? Have you ever wondered what makes an apartheid settler ethnostate democratic? What does it really mean?

      The goal is to get you to critically engage with the tropes and thought-controlling cliches at work here. Your questions are full of them. It's clear you've never really questioned hegemonic thinking and at the moment you're being combative towards the idea of applying a little critical thinking or, God forbid, answering my questions or statements.

      If that's the case, then we agree that more democracy is good. If that's not the case, why did you bring it up?

      That last question is the only thing you should've said in reply to my first comment. An attempt to understand rather than an attempt to eagerly dismiss what you have never investigated.

      I have answered that question twice now, though.

      • anarchost@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        I would love to see an example of your own critical thinking:

        Would you have preferred a vote, instead of the United States government unilaterally deciding to support the ethnic genocide of Gazans by Israel?

            • Maoo [none/use name]
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              1 year ago

              Me: writes paragraphs explaining my thoughts and answering your questions and ask a few questions, all of which you ignore.

              You: write 1-2 sentences in response, usually just asking new questions rather than engage.

              Sure buddy, I'm the scared one.

              • anarchost@lemm.ee
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                1 year ago

                Would you have preferred a vote? Yes or no?

                Brainless bluster just makes you look smart to stupid people.

                  • anarchost@lemm.ee
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                    1 year ago

                    Would you have preferred a vote? Yes or no?

                    Nobody should trust your advice on critical thinking if you can't even reach a simple conclusion.

        • Wakmrow [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          I'll answer it.

          You're missing the point. You are equating "democracy" as "good". Your question is not relevant to the point being made. They are asking, what is good? What is democracy? And you're responding with "you must agree democracy is good".