I've been speaking with other more informed communists and they've told me that none actually exist. Is this true?

China, Laos, and Vietnam: now notoriously capitalists. Workers work 12+ hours with no protection in horrible factory conditions. Suicide rates are so high that suicide nets are installed. The air is so polluted millions die from lung cancer, especially factory workers w/out basic masks. Corporations dominate

North Korea: Undemocratically ruled by the Kim dynasty. Jong un indulges lavishly at the expense of his citizens, ordering millions in fine wine and trips from Denis Rodman. They might be the most socialist though, as Juche seems to otherwise be democratic.

Cuba: Sanctions have taken a massive toll, but even taking that into account the country still has its own problems. They have massive food shortages and inventory probs and aren't self sufficient after 60+ years. Why couldn't they've use machinery imported from the Soviet Union to develop their agriculture and fishery? The Soviets supported them heavily. They seem to be incredibly mismanaged or corrupt

    • anarchost@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      I understand that you use the same logic as Sartre describes in other bigots, so I don't expect you to engage with the 10 principles and simply attempt to deny them, deflect from them, call the sources Zionist propaganda, etc.

      Would you like to engage in good faith, or am I 100% correct in my assessment of you

      • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        im a trans woman but yeah sure im a bigot because some white toddler got his politics from a youtube video and apparently the CIA

        Im not a nice one, im here to call you a bitch.

        • anarchost@lemm.ee
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          1 year ago

          Why are you bringing up your identity?

          Since you want to do that, would you rather live in a country with LGBT policies like Russia, or one more like Sweden?

          • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]
            ·
            1 year ago

            Why are you bringing up your identity?

            you seem to be casting my identity as a bigot, I responded.

            Russia isn't socialist, Sweden has a terrible record for handling autistic people, of which I am among.

            • anarchost@lemm.ee
              ·
              1 year ago

              Oh... So you believe Blair White is not a bigot.

              We can talk about the CCP and how it disappeared one of its most substantial LGBT activists. Or the laws against girly men on TV.

            • anarchost@lemm.ee
              ·
              1 year ago

              Oh... So you believe Blair White is not a bigot.

              We can talk about the CCP and how it disappeared one of its most substantial LGBT activists. Or the laws against girly men on TV.

                  • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    babe you've been unable to do anything but call anyone who calls out your CIA sources a nazi. You've not given a single good response this whole thread.

                    Even LiberalSocialist wasn't this bad lol.

                    • anarchost@lemm.ee
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                      1 year ago

                      You are also using an ad hominem fallacy, you are also lying about the source, but you clearly don't care about any of that because you are not a leftist, and you do not value rationality or truth

                      • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]
                        ·
                        1 year ago

                        ad hominem fallacy

                        logical fallacy

                        whataboutism

                        strawman

                        Wow cool so we know you're from reddit now.

                        and how am i lying about the source, its funded by the NED and even awarded the Democracy Award by it in 2018. It is a CIA front org.

                        • anarchost@lemm.ee
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                          1 year ago

                          Doubling down on the logical fallacy, and introducing a second ad hominem, doesn't fix your argument. If anything, it makes you look more desperate.

                          Why are you so terrified of this document? It's like telling a Scientologist that Hubbard isn't God, and the Scientologist insists that I shouldn't bring up their irrationality, and that anyone who disagrees with them is the real cultist.

                          Do you believe the 10 principles don't exist?

                          • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]
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                            1 year ago

                            Reddit brain, also you've been doing the same shit calling others nazis and making out everyone who disagrees is anti jew. Very lib of you.

                            Why are you so terrified of this document? It's like telling a Scientologist that Hubbard isn't God, and the Scientologist insists that I shouldn't bring up their irrationality, and that anyone who disagrees with them is the real cultist.

                            Terrified? Of something that isn't verified to be real? You dronies always seem to be projecting.

                            Do you believe the 10 principles don't exist?

                            I do, but give me the real 10 principles. Korean speakers here or from DPRK sources can translate.

                            Denounce your CIA source and then I'll deign to care about your childish words.

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                            • anarchost@lemm.ee
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                              1 year ago

                              You just contradicted yourself. First, you said the 10 principles aren't real, and now you are claiming they are real but you need somebody of a particular ethnicity to read them to you. Seems kind of racist.

                              But hey, we can simply go through the principles one at a time. I will write them out, and you will tell me whether or not they should be condemned.

                              First and foremost, do you believe a country should establish a singular, monolithic political party, and imprison or disappear anyone who dares to criticize it?

                      • GoAdventureTo6665RutledgeDriveFairfaxStation
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                        1 year ago

                        did you genuinely just sit down, type that out, look at it and think it was something even worth reading, let alone writing? How tf do you expect to unironically say that and be taken seriously, like just fucking look at it for a good ten seconds and then honestly tell me that this doesnt just sound like the average stereotype of the dorky as shit debate bro redditor

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            • anarchost@lemm.ee
              ·
              1 year ago

              Oh... So you believe Blair White is not a bigot.

              We can talk about the CCP and how it disappeared one of its most substantial LGBT activists. Or the laws against girly men on TV.