• SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    They cry “human shields” because they claim Hamas is hiding in hospitals, refugee camps, churches, etc. which then justifies them massacring civilians because Hamas was among them. I saw a guy on twitter come up with the hypothetical that “if your family was being held hostage in a house but the kidnappers also had six children in there, would you really be okay with the government/military standing back and saying “we can’t do anything, there are kids in there.”” I mean, why would I want the government to bomb the place my family is being held hostage in? That would literally get them killed and, unlike the hypothetical guy, I’m not an asshole who thinks innocents can and should be collateral damage.

    • lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      They cry “human shields” because they claim Hamas is hiding in hospitals, refugee camps, churches, etc. which then justifies them massacring civilians because Hamas was among them.

      Which is absurd since Hamas is just regular Palestinians who are part of this group so they don't "hide" in hospitals they... just are there or not. I know it's a low hanging fruit at this point but imagine if Russia bombed an hospital and said "well they were hiding UAF soldiers there" they would instantly see how ridiculous that claim is

      • SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml
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        1 year ago

        imagine if Russia bombed an hospital and said “well they were hiding UAF soldiers there” they would instantly see how ridiculous that claim is

        Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t something like that happen? Like, UAF soldiers were hiding in/around civilian areas which resulted in Russian forces attacking said places? This is not an excuse or defence, I just literally remember something like that making the rounds…

        • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          Al Jazeera (Arabic) literally found them using ambulance-esque van vehicles to transport military soldiers and even Amnesty International condemned them for it...

          https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/08/ukraine-ukrainian-fighting-tactics-endanger-civilians/

        • lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml
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          1 year ago

          Yeah I think I remembered too. Well I'm not gonna deny that the Russian army committed war crimes if that's the case, even if the SMO was necessary

    • Juice [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      if your family was being held hostage in a house but the kidnappers also had six children in there, would you really be okay with the government/military standing back and saying “we can’t do anything, there are kids in there

      I know liberals have zero object permanence , but its like he forgot what you were talking about when he started his argument, and then forgot how he began his argument by the end. Shit like this has got to be AI only a predictive text algorithm or someone with Alzheimer's has that little awareness, unless he just likes imagining scenarios where his whole family gets killed