Synopsis:

A major argument of the book is that the imprecise, informal, community-building indebtedness of "human economies" is only replaced by mathematically precise, firmly enforced debts through the introduction of violence, usually state-sponsored violence in some form of military or police.

A second major argument of the book is that, contrary to standard accounts of the history of money, debt is probably the oldest means of trade, with cash and barter transactions being later developments.

Debt, the book argues, has typically retained its primacy, with cash and barter usually limited to situations of low trust involving strangers or those not considered credit-worthy. Graeber proposes that the second argument follows from the first; that, in his words, "markets are founded and usually maintained by systematic state violence", though he goes on to show how "in the absence of such violence, they... can even come to be seen as the very basis of freedom and autonomy".

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  • Pomegranate [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Started reading this a while ago but it's been going really slow because I've had a shitty few months. Maybe this'll help me finish, though I'm already on the 7th chapter or so.

    I found the idea of human economies strangely compelling, it reminded me of my childhood friendships. When some of my buddies and I would go to convenience stores and buy snacks, we'd often lend each other cash or even just pay for each other, but we never formally kept count of who owed what - we just provided for each other and that was that. Granted that's a minor anecdote but it helped make the topic feel very intuitive to me.

    • LibsEatPoop3 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      yeah exactly my friends and I did the same. when I first came to west tho the entire experience of keeping accurate tabs/paying only for yourself even when you’re with friends was such a culture shock.