cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/8181688

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  • Stoneykins [any]@mander.xyz
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    1 year ago

    It involves a wide variety of behaviors, including the stuff you said, but primarily the first thing that comes to mind for me is the behaviour of trying to force/coerce people to engage in debates/discussions that they don't want to have or are otherwise unprepared to have, usually on the bad-faith preposition that anyone who is unwilling to participate in said debate/discussion must only be unwilling for the reason of being wrong.

    • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      debates/discussions that they don't want to have or are otherwise unprepared to have

      I see your point, but I think this is seriously undermined when you have someone like OP who is willing to post all day about this, and occasionally willing to dip their toes into trying to raise real points, but then throws up their hands and says "hey it's just a joke meme" whenever they're in a tough spot.

      • Stoneykins [any]@mander.xyz
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        1 year ago

        Eh, IMO it was more like they attempted to engage in response, and then tapped out when it went over their head. Or maybe they just got busy IRL.

        It doesn't seem good to me to try and rationalize shitty behavior just because of a reason someone might deserve it.

        Also tho, if you wanna call them a lib and consider them officially dunked, you don't need a certain response from them for it to work, you can just decide that.

        • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Or maybe they just got busy IRL

          Looks like they've been posting pretty hard in this thread for at least 6-7 hours, often multiple paragraphs at a time.

          It doesn't seem good to me to try and rationalize shitty behavior just because of a reason someone might deserve it.

          It's not shitty behavior to make a political response to a political meme, or to point out when someone isn't having a good faith conversation.

          • Stoneykins [any]@mander.xyz
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            1 year ago

            It’s not shitty behavior to make a political response to a political meme, or to point out when someone isn’t having a good faith conversation.

            Yes, but I'm not taking issue with just making political responses or pointing out bad-faith conversations. I'm taking issue with attempts to force/coerce engagement in a debate/discussion when someone doesn't want to or is otherwise unprepared for debate/discussion.

            I'm not trying to say any of this in the interest of proving anyone wrong or right or whatever. I would just like to see less of that behavior.