• conditional_soup@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    Woah, no way! How could this happen? We've only been consistently investing more and more money into fossil fuels and infrastructure to both supply and demand them while saying that it doesn't matter because we bought completely worthless carbon credits..

    • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      Aliens are going to laugh that humans are the first species to go extinct by what was essentially mass suicide.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        8 months ago

        What if we wouldn't be the first and the Great Filter was primarily local carbrains burning fossil fuels? doomer

    • WetBeardHairs@lemmy.ml
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      8 months ago

      They might not be the solution to climate change, but they do help local pollution levels. Or at least they would if people would stop buying ginormous pedestrian-smasher trucks at a rate of 20:1 bev.

      • jonuno@lemmy.ml
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        8 months ago

        they do help with local pollution levels

        Not where the resources needed to build them are being extracted, and thats the issue.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        8 months ago

        Doesn't stop the brake/tire dust issue, or the fact that it takes so many resources (and carbon waste) to keep churning out individual cars as well as all the pollution and wasted resources and environmental impact of roads and parking lots everywhere.

  • FanonFan [comrade/them, any]
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    8 months ago

    I'm glad most of these problems can be solved by small lifestyle choices, and that by consuming slightly differently as an individual, I can have faith that I'm personally preserving the world for future generations. And once people see the profoundly ethical consumption choices I make, they'll start to follow suit, and there'll be a massive ripple effect centered around my consumption that spreads across the whole world as people switch to paper bags and only eat meat three days a week. If people's choices were influenced by their material environment rather than the spread of ideas, we'd be forced to think of ways to change their material environment, which seems a lot harder than just changing people's minds.

    I'm glad that most of this impact is caused by individuals and their consumption habits, because it's easy to convince people to consume differently. If these problems were disproportionately caused by corporations, governments, and militaries, then we'd have to change their minds, and they can't be simply talked into acting differently. There'd have to be some risk to their bottom line or material interests, perhaps some sort of immediate threat to the people in charge, which would be difficult for individuals like us to enact within the bounds of the law and pacifist social norms.

    I'm glad most of us live in some form of democracy where we can vote for initiatives and people who will address these pressing issues. Voting is more important than ever because of this.

    In a hypothetical world where this weren't the case (say elected representatives had shown a long track record of ignoring the demands of their constituents and brushing these kinds of problems under the rug, for instance) it would unfortunately be our ethical duty to take matters into our own hands with more radical action. Since politicians would value the profit of fossil fuel corporations more than our well-being and the world's future, we'd have to find some way for individuals to impact the bottom lines of these companies, possibly by drastically increasing the cost of doing business, perhaps by increasing the cost of maintaining their machinery somehow. But I'm glad I can just vote for people who can be trusted to use their state power to solve these problems peacefully and legally.

      • FanonFan [comrade/them, any]
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        8 months ago

        No sarcasm here. I'd never recommend people do anything illegal, especially on a public internet forum. Like I said, voting and baby steps are already good solutions to impending global catastrophe.

        • PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml
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          8 months ago

          Not only is voting and individual life-style changes good solutions to impending global catastrophe, you would also be a racist and/or sexist, for suggesting that those approaches aren't good enough. Not to mention ableist for suggesting that maybe the status-quo isn't something that should be upheld.

  • 18107@aussie.zone
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    8 months ago

    I'm honestly surprised it's set to fall. I thought we were still increasing fossil fuel use.

  • Kuori [she/her]
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    8 months ago

    is it time to kill all the capitalists before they kill us yet?

    • Rom [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      At this point it's self defense.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    We live in such a clownish society society that it's a mainsteam and generally accepted belief that billionaires will save humanity by escaping the planet they're burning down and continuing capitalism on an already dead planet. galaxy-brain

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        8 months ago

        When billionaire cryptofascists babble about "saving humanity" they mean themselves and those they immediately identify with.