• Ronin_5@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    They don’t have a thought process. They’re racist and are just making up justifications.

    Israel isn’t even a state for all Jews. It’s a white ethnostate where Christianity is replaced by Judaism. If you’re a black Jew from North Africa, you’re gonna have a bad time. If you’re a Jew that’s been living in Palestine since before Israel, you’re gonna have an even worse time.

    Zionism is a fascist ideology, and that resonates with the libs.

    • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      You can even observe their exclusions. Beta Israel were consider Jewish so they let them in, but discriminated against. Ugandan Jews some years later, despite overall consensus among Jewish scholars accepting them as real Jews, were declined even that status by the state of Israel.

      Kinda remind me of ancient prejudice against Idumeans and Samaritans, and medieval against judaist Arabs and Khazars.

  • knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    Typically liberals don't mind holding contradictory ideals, but this is a case where they match up, as Zionism is anti-semitic.

    https://criticalresist.substack.com/p/zionism-is-antisemitism-and-palestine

    @CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml

    • doccitrus@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      For the early Christian Zionists who drove the Balfour Declaration forward and repeatedly steered the British Mandate in Palestine back towards Zionism, part of it very seriously was

      *Slaps Palestine*

      "This bad boy can fit so many Jews I don't want in my own country in it"

      It was a weird mix of yearning for and reaching towards the apocalypse (because many Protestants believe 'the Jewish people' must return to 'the land of Israel' in order for Christ to return and for the world to end) and at the same time thinking 'I'd rather not have that domestic Jewish population'.

      In that way, Zionism and anti-semitism have really worked hand-in-hand from the very start of the Zionist project.

  • Salmarez [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    In practice, (and probably in theory) Zionism is antisemitism. Maybe this is the one time that liberals are consistent?

  • ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    Zionism IS antisemitic, the central tenant of Zionism is that Jews indigenous from Europe don't actually belong there, that they are strangers and should go away make their own homeland.

    It's an excuse for advocating for ridding Europe of Jews while pretending to care about Jews, it allow true antisemites to pretend it's the ones who are against them who are antisemitic for not thinking that Jews should leave Europe and "go back to their country".

    Just to stress this point a little more, guess who was very on board with Zionism:

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/2536016

    https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/central-european-history/article/abs/zionism-and-antisemitism-in-nazi-germany-by-francis-r-nicosia-cambridge-cambridge-university-press-2008-pp-xiv324-cloth-8500-isbn-9780521883924/4723710B5739FA79BAA5813A987E2F7B

    https://www.palestineremembered.com/Zionist_Relations_With_Nazi_German.html