I did not realize I was talking to a debate-bro. My apologies.
I'm going to assume by this non-response that you're apologising for a faulty analogy. It's okay, I sometimes do it too.
There are plenty of conditions that change how people see reality that aren't desirable.
This was a response towards you claiming that autism being part of somebody's identity being "genetic-essentialism". Of course there are plenty of conditions, like colour blindness and brain tumours. But I wasn't arguing that autism is good because it's different. I was arguing why autism can be part of somebody's identity besides whatever genetic origins it has.
Are we going to medicalize the discussion of medicalization, then? You're a champion of neurodivergence who casually dismisses an intervention by denouncing the researchers as "insane"? Dafuq?
Obviously I could've chosen better words and I apologise. But by "actual sane" I meant people who aren't reactionary ableist bigots like those of Autism Speaks (who are not researchers). And at no point did I imply that the researchers themselves were such, though I wouldn't be surprised. But although the word I used was unfortunate, I'll still denounce interventions based on what I actually meant (bigoted/ableist/reactionary reasoning).
Diagnosed by symptoms
Which is different from being a symptom. You can't just lump a bunch of unrelated conditions with possibly very different underlying causes because they have common symptoms. Like I said for brain tumours.
The article specifically calls out sever conditions associated with autism that they were seeking to treat in mice.
Fair point, I missed it. Here's the line.
The male mice given the mutation were found to have lower levels of the MEF2C protein in the brain, and had symptoms that mimicked ASD-like hyperactivity, problems with social interaction and repetitive behaviour.
Those are definitely not what I'd associate with the worst of ASD. Nor are they very well defined ("problems").
It's strange though, this is a thread about autism erasure and "fixing" but you are the one getting flippant despite all major forces being at your side.
I'm going to assume by this non-response that you're apologising for a faulty analogy. It's okay, I sometimes do it too.
This was a response towards you claiming that autism being part of somebody's identity being "genetic-essentialism". Of course there are plenty of conditions, like colour blindness and brain tumours. But I wasn't arguing that autism is good because it's different. I was arguing why autism can be part of somebody's identity besides whatever genetic origins it has.
Obviously I could've chosen better words and I apologise. But by "actual sane" I meant people who aren't reactionary ableist bigots like those of Autism Speaks (who are not researchers). And at no point did I imply that the researchers themselves were such, though I wouldn't be surprised. But although the word I used was unfortunate, I'll still denounce interventions based on what I actually meant (bigoted/ableist/reactionary reasoning).
Which is different from being a symptom. You can't just lump a bunch of unrelated conditions with possibly very different underlying causes because they have common symptoms. Like I said for brain tumours.
Fair point, I missed it. Here's the line.
Those are definitely not what I'd associate with the worst of ASD. Nor are they very well defined ("problems").
It's strange though, this is a thread about autism erasure and "fixing" but you are the one getting flippant despite all major forces being at your side.
E: fixed a lot of bad grammar