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The U.S. vetoed a UN Security Council resolution Friday calling for a ceasefire to the fighting in Gaza.
The U.S. and Israel have opposed calls for a ceasefire, saying it would strengthen Hamas.
The vote was delayed for several hours over worries the U.S. would veto it. Diplomats from several Arab nations met with U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken to try to convince the U.S. to abstain from voting.
As a permanent member of the council, the U.S. has veto power, and had signaled it planned to block the resolution. The U.K. abstained from the vote, while the 13 other members of the council voted for it.
read more: https://www.semafor.com/article/12/08/2023/un-security-council-votes-on-gaza-ceasefire-resolution-amid-israel-hamas-conflict
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Every civilian death in Gaza going forward is a direct consequence of US actions. US is directly responsible for facilitating a genocide.
No one should have veto power, it makes any organization extremely undemocratic. And given the American arsenal, it's already difficult to be democratic.
The UN with their permanent members are a disgrace. All they do is uphold imperialism and say please don't do that.
I like how casually you talk about a few tens of thousands of people being murdered and millions more made homeless. As long as we get the one guy, infinite murder is justified!
Hamas is fighting back against a genocidal occupation. They haven't killed a single civilian because active participants in that genocidal occupation are not civilians. You and anyone who supports that genocidal occupation and the antisemitic monsters behind it are a blight on the world. Remove yourself as painfully as possible.
The Palestinians of today are the Arabs of the Palestinian areas, this is a basic fact that you need to get right, and when you get right this you know that your so-called genocidal occupation is a false proposition
The focus isn't on that though, and while you and The Leader of the Free World™ prevaricate and wish for a perfect solution, children are being slaughtered in their thousands. The focus, in my opinion, should be on stopping that slaughter immediately. You know, with a ceasefire or something.
Having grown up in the midst of one of the most authoritarian depressions of the planet, I know that a ceasefire will not make the conflict go away at all, it will only erupt even more at some point in the future. Only a bottom-up awakening of the population to a general sense of modern citizenship can change this, and it will take a generation or two to transform it. We have had more than sixteen wars in the history of this country that have resulted in more than 50 percent of the population being decimated. Politicians often use the past history of invasions and other means to brainwash people and promote hate education, but as a modern person in a modern society, I know that history is just a lie of the victor, so the way to judge the problem should not be the first preconceived notion of right and wrong with the standpoint of the first, this kind of judgment has too much one-sided. No one wants war, famine and death on earth, but that is human nature.
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I think it's right that this kind of motion should be voted down, the good guy tactic will reduce population casualties in the short term, but in the long term, uMkontho we Sizwe will do more harm, so it's right to have an eye for an eye tactic. But the focus should be on how to eliminate uMkontho we Sizwe while protecting as many civilians as possible, rather than a truce to give uMkontho we Sizwe a break.
-P. W. Botha, 1989 (Tagged the quote as spoiler as the original got
lmao deserved btw)
