Exploring the depravity of a rich white boy entrapping poor BIPOC people, committing biological and chemical warfare against them, and making fun of them for his millions of viewers
  • RedCat@lemmygrad.ml
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    11 months ago

    Probably bad take ahead: I don't really agree with this article. There is a huge difference between stealing from a porch (or out of a car) and shoplifting. I have 100% sympathy for shoplifters and think there is absolutely nothing wrong with it and if Mark Robber was rigging paint bombs to baby formula and cans of beans I would agree but this article is very melodramatic in my opinion. Glitter and stink bombs are not torture. It's still douchey especially since he made a million videos on this premise already but I think using the word torture for this is too much (+how do you know that the thieves really need to steal in order to survive?).

    I can see myself being in the wrong here so I would interest in the opinion of you comrades.

    Edit: wording, addressing the author properly

    • loathsome dongeater@lemmygrad.ml
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      11 months ago

      My only issue with what Mark Rober does is that he detaches petty crime from societal root causes then mills them into vigilante revenge porn videos and makes tons of money out of them. The cockroach thing IMO was pretty egregious despite the targets being depraved. Something like a glitter or fart bomb there would be much more appropriate. Cockroach infestations are tricky to undo.

    • millennialchaos@lemmygrad.ml
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      11 months ago

      I literally addressed this at the end of the article. I prefer theft directly from corporations. What specifically would you call this other than torture? For instance, if it was done to a truly innocent person would it just be a 'prank'? Would you like to see pranks like this done to people?

      Plus you ignored the Indian call center bio warfare, where he unleashed hordes of cockroaches on workers

      how does the author know that the thieves really need to steal in order to survive

      why would someone steal if not to get money to live? What's the point of risking violence from cops or psychotic gun wielding bystanders?

      • RedCat@lemmygrad.ml
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        11 months ago

        Yeah I would call it a prank. You wrote in your article yourself that you used fart spray when you where twelve. Does that mean you tortured people when you where twelve?. I don't like the use of the word torture here because it dilutes the term. Being glitterbombed is a mild annoyance at best. Being beat to inch of your life, sleep deprived, put into stress positions etc. isn't. If the same term is used for both it makes the abhorrent shit the US does and has done in Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib for example look way less serious. It's the same that Libs like to do with the bogus genocide accusations in Xinjang. If you call something (in relation) harmless something much worse you make the worse thing seem less serious than it is.

        I ignored the indian call center bio warfare because I don't disagree with your analysis. Same reason why I said nothing about the fencing market. I agree that Robber is in the wrong here. Yeah Cock Roaches can spread disease so unleashing a bunch of them could be considered bio warfare. (I wrote could because I am sure there is someone out there who through the use of some legal argument can point out who this TECHNICALLY dosent qualify as bio warfare since no armies are involved or something equally spineless)

        why would someone steal if not to get money to live? What’s the point of risking violence from cops or psychotic gun wielding bystanders?

        Porch pirating or grabbing something out of a car is pretty low risk and if the price is expensive Apple stuff a lot of people who are not completely destitute will still do it. Unfortunately capitalist brain rot hustle culture is deeply ingrained in the minds of many (not because it is human nature or some other bs but because you are blasted 24/7 with media justifying it) and so stealing something that is low risk but high reward is seen as another brick in the whole hussle culture wall. I am also not saying there was no thief who definitely needed the money just that it is impossible to tell their motives from the videos alone.

        • millennialchaos@lemmygrad.ml
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          11 months ago

          Ah, so it's only torture if it comes from Gitmo, otherwise its 'sparkling chemical warfare'.

          Do we have to wait until someone loses an eye from getting chemicals shot into it before we demonize this? What are we, libs?

          I really hope you aren't comparing me pranking my sister by spraying fart spray in her room to rigging a package to dispense it onto your enemy, surely you aren't doing that?

          I ignored the indian call center bio warfare because I don’t disagree with your analysis.

          So you're morally corrupt and willing to lie to bolster your shitty point, thanks for letting me know that.

          Porch pirating or grabbing something out of a car is pretty low risk

          Ahem Black teen shot in the head after knocking on the wrong door

          Could we perhaps cease playing 'devils advocate' when a rich white guy gets paid hundreds of thousands of dollars from an AT&T sponsorship to terrorize poor people? That would be fantastic.

          • RedCat@lemmygrad.ml
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            11 months ago

            Ah, so it’s only torture if it comes from Gitmo, otherwise its ‘sparkling chemical warfare’.

            Do we have to wait until someone loses an eye from getting chemicals shot into it before we demonize this? What are we, libs?

            I really hope you aren’t comparing me pranking my sister by spraying fart spray in her room to rigging a package to dispense it onto your enemy, surely you aren’t doing that?

            Yes. It is either torture or it's not. If Mark Robber spraying strangers with stink spray is torure so is you spraying your sister. If spraying your sister with stink spray isn't torture neither is spraying others.

            Meanwhile if I Kidnapped a random family member or some stranger on the street and waterboarded them both would be classified as torture.

            So you’re morally corrupt and willing to lie to bolster your shitty point, thanks for letting me know that.

            I have genuinely no clue what you are trying to say here.

            Ahem Black teen shot in the head after knocking on the wrong door

            And? I said low risk not no risk. It is also low risk to fly and yet planes crash sometimes dosen't stop people from flying. Also this case has nothing to do with porch pirating so why bring it even up?

            Could we perhaps cease playing ‘devils advocate’ when a rich white guy gets paid hundreds of thousands of dollars from an AT&T sponsorship to terrorize poor people? That would be fantastic.

            I am not. I am just extremely annoyed at you using a term that describes one of the most horrid and repeated crimes being committed towards comrades and minorities by the western world and then use it to describe pranks. Criticizing Mark Robber is deserved but could you do that without diluting an extremely important term?

            • millennialchaos@lemmygrad.ml
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              11 months ago

              Yes. It is either torture or it’s not.

              Hey numbnuts. I know my sister isn't, for instance, allergic to whatever chemical is in the spray. Does Mark Rober? May I approach you randomly in public and spray this stuff in your face? Just a harmless prank, right?

              What he's doing is literally illegal, by the way. Booby trapping is illegal. People don't care because it's being done to a group of poor people who is demonized by libs like you.

              I have genuinely no clue what you are trying to say here.

              You are willing to ignore what you consider to be harmful abuse that Mark Rober is instilling upon the working class to bolster your dogshit point. You are pathetic.

              And? I said low risk not no risk. It is also low risk to fly and yet planes crash sometimes dosen’t stop people from flying. Also this case has nothing to do with porch pirating so why bring it even up?

              Are the goalposts heavy? If someone shoots someone knocking on their door, they'll unload a full clip into a someone trying to steal from them

              Criticizing Mark Robber is deserved but could you do that without diluting an extremely important term?

              You don't want to criticize him. You want to defend him. That's why you'll nitpick the things I said in order to be PURPOSELY PROVACTIVE instead of actually addressing the point of the article. The point that you fully agree with.

              What you're doing right now is defending the person you also say deserves criticism. Suck me from the back, lib