• ex10n@lemm.ee
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      11 months ago

      I haven't brought race into this discourse and plan to keep it that way. This is discussing country policy decisions.

      • الأرض ستبقى عربية@lemmygrad.ml
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        11 months ago

        but racism explains why you are defending a genocide against the Palestinians. You would be singing a completely different tune if the people being murdered were relatively civilized relatively european.

        where does your double standards come from, unless you don't see the Palestinians as equally humans?

        • ex10n@lemm.ee
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          11 months ago

          I disagree, the promotion of a 2 state solution in Israel parallels the states policy for the protection of Ukrainian sovereignty.

            • ex10n@lemm.ee
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              11 months ago

              No, I disagree with any form of forced annexation. Hench the support of a 2 state solution in Israel and the protection of Ukrainian sovereignty.

              • الأرض ستبقى عربية@lemmygrad.ml
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                11 months ago

                but the 2-state solution itself is annexation. If you are okay with it in Palestine then you should be okay with it in Ukraine. Otherwise you are being a hypocrite either due to historical ignorance or racism.

                • ex10n@lemm.ee
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                  11 months ago

                  Please explain to me how a 2 state solution is in affect, annexation?

                  • الأرض ستبقى عربية@lemmygrad.ml
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                    11 months ago

                    They say a picture is worth a thousand words. All the dots on this map are ethnically cleansed Palestinian towns and villages. If this happening to the Palestinians is okay with you, being forced from their homes with no right to return, then it happening to the Ukrainians should also be okay with you.

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                    • ex10n@lemm.ee
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                      11 months ago

                      The US recognizes these attrocities and thus favors a 2 state solution to end this war and preexisting conflict.

                        • ex10n@lemm.ee
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                          11 months ago

                          Two wrongs do not make a right. The US favors a 2 state solution.

                            • ex10n@lemm.ee
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                              11 months ago

                              Fortunately the defense of sovereign Ukrainian territory is not a wrong. The UN backs this claim directly in its charter.

                                  • الأرض ستبقى عربية@lemmygrad.ml
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                                    11 months ago

                                    Neither is racism and imperialism. Isn't it ironic that the countries that don't recognize Palestine are the same countries that consider Hamas terrorists. Almost like they are racist and imperialist.

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                                    • ex10n@lemm.ee
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                                      11 months ago

                                      Hamas has committed terrorist acts. It'd be naive to think they don't support terrorism. Frankly it was the spark that started the most recent developments with the conflict.

                                      • الأرض ستبقى عربية@lemmygrad.ml
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                                        11 months ago

                                        Again, more ignorance. Not only being racist to 87% of the world population who don't see Hamas as terrorists. But also completely disregarding and ignoring the context that led Hamas to respond on October 7th. Do you even know why it was called Operation Al-Aqsa Flood?

                                        This happened on October 4th! Worshippers were attacked in Al-Aqsa Mosque https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/4/israeli-settlers-storm-al-aqsa-mosque-complex-on-fifth-day-of-sukkot

                                        Typical racists, always ignoring that they attacked first, and only focusing on the response.

                                        • ex10n@lemm.ee
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                                          11 months ago

                                          It's clear the intentions were to strike terror in an effort to bring attention to the apartheid. This does not detract from the fact that it was still terrorism.

                                            • ex10n@lemm.ee
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                                              11 months ago

                                              US policy towards the apartheid in South Africa changed over the years. This highlights the importance of being open minded!

                                              • الأرض ستبقى عربية@lemmygrad.ml
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                                                11 months ago

                                                The US supported apartheid in South Africa until the bitter end, even when the rest of the world stood in opposition to it. Nelson Mandela was considered a terrorist until 2008.

                                                Your government gets a lot wrong. So I can safely ignore it.

                                                • ex10n@lemm.ee
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                                                  11 months ago

                                                  The beauty of a democratic government is the nature of shifts in policy. It may not be able to act as swiftly as an authoritarian regime, but it does allow all sides to get their time to share input. I've never claimed the US to be the arbitor of morality, they've made their fair share of mistakes. Fortunately the democratic process allows us to Garner a better understanding as a whole, and thus work towards the solutions that being forth the most common good. Very utilitarian in nature.

                                                  • الأرض ستبقى عربية@lemmygrad.ml
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                                                    11 months ago

                                                    Enjoy your democracy while I enjoy my high speed rail. At least until Israel orders you to bomb us.

                                                    After traveling to the US once and actually having the Acela train I was on die during the trip, is plenty of argument against whatever political system you have

                                                    Watch Saudi's HSR and weep https://youtu.be/uXtaWSnmvTg

                                                    • ex10n@lemm.ee
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                                                      11 months ago

                                                      High Speed Rail is in a Renaissance phase here in the US, it's incredibly exciting! I'm not sure how this fits the current discourse here though.