I’m familiar with the top-level one. I’m talking about layla’s. Dropping this Stallman gem for anyone unfamiliar with his takes:
CW: CSA
Early in the thread, Stallman insists that the “most plausible scenario” is that Epstein’s underage victims were “entirely willing” while being trafficked. Stallman goes on to argue about the definition of “sexual assault,” “rape,” and whether they apply to Minsky and Giuffre’s deposition statement that she was forced to have sex with him.
In response to a student pointing out that Giuffre was 17 when she was forced to have sex with Minsky in the Virgin Islands, Stallman said “it is morally absurd to define ‘rape’ in a way that depends on minor details such as which country it was in or whether the victim was 18 years old or 17.”
That's a misrepresentation what Stallman said. The source you quoted frames it as though he's claiming the victims were "entirely willing" to be trafficked when he actually said
We can imagine many scenarios, but the most plausible scenario is that
she presented herself to him as entirely willing. Assuming she was
being coerced by Epstein, he would have had every reason to tell her
to conceal that from most of his associates.
Criticize what he actually said, not a fabricated portrayal of it.
I’m familiar with the top-level one. I’m talking about layla’s. Dropping this Stallman gem for anyone unfamiliar with his takes:
CW: CSA
Yeah and that's barely scratching the surface of stupid shit rms has said or actually done to people at MIT.
That's a misrepresentation what Stallman said. The source you quoted frames it as though he's claiming the victims were "entirely willing" to be trafficked when he actually said
Criticize what he actually said, not a fabricated portrayal of it.