So what's gonna happen when every news publication says that Ukraine is getting their ass kicked and always have been? Cause you can't lie forever, eventually it comes out.
Honestly, I can't wait to see what sort of mental gymnastics we'll see then. Libs never acknowledge being wrong and they have an infinite number of fall back positions. For example, the whole framing of the war was that Ukraine is defending western values and democracy against Russian autocracy. Then Zelensky cancels elections, and they were like, "well it's war, you know, you gotta do whatever it takes" and "yeah they're being invaded, you enact martial law, it's what you do".
And this is the pattern you see everywhere with these people. Sometimes they will just flip positions entirely without ever acknowledging it. Before the Snowden leaks, it was widely considered a conspiracy theory to believe the government was monitoring all of your digital communications. They'd be like "you think you're so important that the government would monitor you?" and "if this was happening, someone would have leaked it by now" and so on. Then Snowden presented the evidence and they smoothly switched to "we always knew this to be the case".
I expect a similar thing will happen with Ukraine when they're no longer able to pretend that Russia is weak and losing. They'll just flip to "yeah of course Ukraine could never defeat Russia, but with our help we stopped Russia from taking all of Ukraine", or "we set up a government in exile", or whatever it is they choose to spin as their big win. All the original goals will be promptly forgotten, and they'll just move on to pretending that their new position is the one they had all along.
Indeed, it's pretty funny when you ask libs to show Russian statements to substantiate the objectives libs assign to them, and they go oh well they won't say what their objectives are. Then how do you know what they are motherfucker?!
The consequences of censoring all Russian media lol. We don't know what they're planning because we silenced them so we fill the gaps in our knowledge with fanfiction. And then call Russians liars when they don't follow our script, which justifies further aggression from us. It's a fucking circus
Russia being clear from the beginning about their goals hasn't stopped libs from writing an article about how puttin wants to roll tanks into Paris every week.
Yeah, exactly, but honestly this is entirely predictable and hence not really something to look forward to.
The only thing that will change their tune is when their own personal livelihoods are threatened. Then they'll beg and cry and curse everyone for having betrayed them. Everyone else will be at fault except them.
So what's gonna happen when every news publication says that Ukraine is getting their ass kicked and always have been? Cause you can't lie forever, eventually it comes out.
Honestly, I can't wait to see what sort of mental gymnastics we'll see then. Libs never acknowledge being wrong and they have an infinite number of fall back positions. For example, the whole framing of the war was that Ukraine is defending western values and democracy against Russian autocracy. Then Zelensky cancels elections, and they were like, "well it's war, you know, you gotta do whatever it takes" and "yeah they're being invaded, you enact martial law, it's what you do".
And this is the pattern you see everywhere with these people. Sometimes they will just flip positions entirely without ever acknowledging it. Before the Snowden leaks, it was widely considered a conspiracy theory to believe the government was monitoring all of your digital communications. They'd be like "you think you're so important that the government would monitor you?" and "if this was happening, someone would have leaked it by now" and so on. Then Snowden presented the evidence and they smoothly switched to "we always knew this to be the case".
I expect a similar thing will happen with Ukraine when they're no longer able to pretend that Russia is weak and losing. They'll just flip to "yeah of course Ukraine could never defeat Russia, but with our help we stopped Russia from taking all of Ukraine", or "we set up a government in exile", or whatever it is they choose to spin as their big win. All the original goals will be promptly forgotten, and they'll just move on to pretending that their new position is the one they had all along.
Taking territory wasn't even one of Russia's goals, so them celebrating "Russia didn't take all of Ukraine" is gonna be a completely moot point 🤷🏿♂️
They can be lied to and gaslit and they'll be fine with it, as long as they get to continue living in relative comfort
Indeed, it's pretty funny when you ask libs to show Russian statements to substantiate the objectives libs assign to them, and they go oh well they won't say what their objectives are. Then how do you know what they are motherfucker?!
The consequences of censoring all Russian media lol. We don't know what they're planning because we silenced them so we fill the gaps in our knowledge with fanfiction. And then call Russians liars when they don't follow our script, which justifies further aggression from us. It's a fucking circus
Russia being clear from the beginning about their goals hasn't stopped libs from writing an article about how puttin wants to roll tanks into Paris every week.
Yeah, exactly, but honestly this is entirely predictable and hence not really something to look forward to.
The only thing that will change their tune is when their own personal livelihoods are threatened. Then they'll beg and cry and curse everyone for having betrayed them. Everyone else will be at fault except them.
completely agree
You know the narrative around Soviet-Finnish war? Yeah
Honestly, this is providing a great counterpoint to that too.
"Oh you actually won, did you? Yeah, just like Ukraine, right?
"
You don't need to guess, that's literally what is happening right now.
The New York Times, Washington Post, Guardian, The Independent, Newsweek, they all had articles pointing out that Ukraine is running out of stuff.
In fact, it's so coordinated I'm guessing that the West is preparing people for the eventual abandonment of the war.