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  • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
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    3 years ago

    wtf based

    no but for real did anyone feel like this article was poorly written. Literally just anecdotes.

    their "omg look at all these posts that keep cropping up" literally only had 11 upvotes on 2-4 years in stack overflow. Super common problem obviously.

    https://cseducators.stackexchange.com/questions/3535/introducing-file-systems-to-students-who-really-dont-understand?noredirect=1&lq=1

    https://cseducators.stackexchange.com/questions/5551/what-is-a-file?rq=1

    Just clicking on the cseducators stack exchange, i don't see anyone on the homepage talking about this, more just normal issues, with stuff like "analagy for recursion" getting 40 votes.

    Feels like we're entering the "bully genZ" phase of lazy article writing, just as we had the "millenials bad" phase.

    • Shrek
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      3 years ago

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      • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
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        3 years ago

        next time i feel bad about my skills as a writer i'm gonna remember this drivel got published based off 2 year old stackoverflow posts with 11 upbears

    • blobjim [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I think it's true though. Other people on here have mentioned the same. People's earliest computer experience now is just using apps on a mobile device. It isn't using a desktop or laptop anymore. And often all people need to use is a mobile device, which are not designed around file systems (which is kind of nice most of the time). Although mobile operating systems do also have a problem with not really being designed for utility. File systems can also be really unintuitive.

      Windows Explorer is both kinda nice and kinda garbage, but it makes it confusing to determine where files and things are stored in the actual file system (C:). I was already doing computer programming before I understood how file extensions worked (they're just a file name convention), partially because Windows by default hides file extensions :agony:. And Windows does a garbage job at teaching you how the actual architecture of the system works: the boot process, the root file system, device drivers, the registry, environment variables, etc. GUIs were created to basically hide all of that, the problem is it's all still there and affects everything else. I think desktop OSs are just a confusing Frankenstein's monster since their architecture wasn't even designed for personal layman use (it was for mainframes and academia and stuff like that), in the way that smartphones OSs are.

      People are also dumb and lazy and should use file systems more. Older people used file systems more because older operating systems made them more front and center (any UNIX OS or other terminal based OS). I'm (not older but) lucky to have used my mom's clunky desktop computer a bunch.

      The article has a really good point, "(Your Steam games all live in a folder called “steamapps” — when was the last time you clicked on that?)"

    • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I read this and didn't want to put on my old man eyes so I shared it to a work slack to ask about folks experiences, particularly to younger interns.

      One person's elementary/highschool didn't have managed networks and had to learn how to use directory structure as they entered college.

      A handful have taught at the university level and said they saw somewhat similar things, but also the same people were guilty for just using "find" or "grep" in the terminal