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This is why I'm always skeptical of claims that socialist nations need to "develope the productive" base before they can start communizing. It's based on a super faulty 19th century philosophical framework and not observed reality. I always think of how Venezuela is as we speak socializing their economy into the hands of the people, even without China's productive base, and how the Zapatistas develope infrastructure under the control of the Snail Councils and not a professional or capitalist structure.
I think the issue of unilineal evolution is possibly the biggest theoretical gap between anarchists and marxists, bigger than the gap between their discourses on what violence is and how it should be used.
Le Productive forces isn't really understood rigidly to most actual marxists it's just dumbfuck dengists on the Internet shitposting who think that it's an unquestioned rule
This is why I'm always skeptical of claims that socialist nations need to "develope the productive" base before they can start communizing. It's based on a super faulty 19th century philosophical framework and not observed reality. I always think of how Venezuela is as we speak socializing their economy into the hands of the people, even without China's productive base, and how the Zapatistas develope infrastructure under the control of the Snail Councils and not a professional or capitalist structure.
I think the issue of unilineal evolution is possibly the biggest theoretical gap between anarchists and marxists, bigger than the gap between their discourses on what violence is and how it should be used.
Social ecology is another field that’s skeptical of this idea as well. I personally need to read more about it
Le Productive forces isn't really understood rigidly to most actual marxists it's just dumbfuck dengists on the Internet shitposting who think that it's an unquestioned rule
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Can you say more about this?
They don’t need to develop them, they do need modern weapons though, with all that it brings