But the person in the original comment is wrong. "The software and driver support isn't there" means that appropriate software does not exist. If they were being honest they would have said "Ableton doesn't support Linux and I want to stick with Ableton so it doesn't work for me." Their inaccurate comment could discourage people who do not have a strong preference toward Ableton from trying Linux.
Someone buys an expensive car. They say "I cant use the railway!" Are you going to tell them they're wrong? We dont know if they live next to a railway line. They're also heavily invested in the car and unlikely to pay out for rail tickets.
They didn't say "I can't use the railway" they said "the railway doesn't run to [place the railway definitely runs to]"
Someone buys an expensive car. They say "I cant use the railway!" Are you going to tell them they're wrong?
Yes. Because they are.
We dont know if they live next to a railway line. They're also heavily invested in the car and unlikely to pay out for rail tickets.
None of which indicates they "can't use the railway". It may not be their preferred travel method, which is fine (in the metaphorical sense), but to say they "can't" use the railway is simply untrue.
OP said "the software and driver support isn't there".
Someone replied and corrected them to explain the software and driver support does in fact exist.
OP replied to say that what he actually meant was that it didn't support the specific software and driver they wanted to use.
Seems like a perfectly reasonable conversation.
Also it is very annoying when people say "I wish X was usable but it's not".
That's dismissing something while at the same time posing as a supporter of the product you're dismissing... Pretty much closing yourself to any response.
So you don't think it's possible for someone to support a project and simultaneously acknowledge that it doesn't suit everyone's use-case?
Isn't the comment helpful for others who may find it, because it makes that Linux is capable of supporting music recording?
Obviously it's not very helpful for the person who is sticking with Ableton.
No, because the person has already come to a solution that works for them. If we were to try to convince potential people into linux we should do our own instructionals promoting how-tos and giving actual demonstrations of gear and software that is working so that people looking to get into said hobby or activity can make a choice before buying peripherals.
User experience with all software is pretty shit and Linux is no exception
What I can't stand about Linux is people that use Linux complain about people who use Linux.
Switching from Word to LibreOffice Writer was hard. Sure, I figured out documents on my own, but it still won’t print envelopes correctly (the printer doesn’t respect the margins and orientation compared to my Windows install).
I assume changing platforms and apps is harder when you use your computer to make money. I feel for the OP in the screenshot. Assuming his hardware is compatible, I’m sure he could take some time to learn a FOSS alternative but it’d be a while until he was proficient enough to make a living. The commenter was dickish but correct. Still, let’s not assume switching apps is as easy as switching gas stations.
The amount of help on forums and chats says otherwise.
How they could help with this?
Oh, I paid some company for approval to use their software I don't have rights to change or use how I want, can you guys somehow make it work they way we want? I know the licence makes it illegal, but why aren't you guys doing it?
I keep saying “Computers is not a hobby for me”
Also you just did the thing
EXPLAIN SETTING UP AUDIO SOFTWARE ON LINUX TO ME OR I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU! DON'T DUMB IT DOWN INTO SOME VAGUE SHIT! EXPLAIN JACK TO ME RIGHT NOW OR I'LL LITERALLY FUCKING KILL YOU! WHAT THE FUCK IS
cannot use real-time scheduling (FIFO at priority -4)? WHAT THE FUCK ARE JACKD and QJACKCTL? DON'T DUMB IT DOWN OR I'LL FUCKING KILL YOUBut seriously I've tried getting some music-making/software synths/recording/tracking software together and every time I just bounce off of it because setting it up is just too much effort/out of my regular software wheelhouse/the documentation is like 5 decade-old forum posts with 2 replys.
it sounds like the person hasn't even used Linux but just did their research and found out their software doesn't work on Linux and didn't. Which is what everyone should be doing is evaluating if Linux will even work for them before committing to it.
If the original comment stood alone without rebuttal someone might think that Professional music recording in general isn't possible on Linux when it clearly is possible if you are willing to adapt to the Software and Hardware that is available on Linux.
