"Read Settlers" is a meme, but it's also a true meme. You should read it, or read other things about this thesis regarding the white working class in the US (I've heard other Marxists have since improved on Sakai's thesis but I don't know who they are).
White Americans are doubling down on the racism. As white settler colonialism is starting to face just a little bit of opposition (like teaching kids that maybe the US isn't a perfect, God-blessed country), they are losing their minds over the idea of losing even a tiny bit of their privileges. This is still a perfectly material explanation. White folks have enjoyed an incredible level of privilege since the beginning of this country and they will fight viciously to keep all of it.
IMO the bulk of white Americans are a lost cause. Not to say white folks can't be revolutionary (I'm white), but I think we probably should be spending our very limited time and resources on folks outside the imperial core break from western imperialism, and focus on the oppressed within the core. Any white Americans who want to join in are welcome but any concession to white supremacy is unacceptable.
Edit: to clarify, I'm not saying the Dems lost because racism or whatever. I don't care if the Dems win or lose, it doesn't matter. My point is much more about using electoral results and the campaigns that precede them to see where winds are blowing. It seems that "CRT" and fear-mongering about crime (and thus the need to fund even more cops) was a very effective message in appealing to large segments of the population - particularly the white population.
This person (OP) is an obvious wrecker with the same tired DNC "what's the haps, don't we all hate YT" shtick.
Believing that a majority of white people will continue supporting racism and the class system built on top of it doesn’t equal hating mayos lol
If you're equating the revolutionary potential in America with how many people vote Democratic each election, I don't know what to tell you :shrug-outta-hecks:
Becoming a doomer because Terry McAuliffe fumbled what should have been an easy win is silly. Fumbling is what they do, how are you still surprised by it?
If I was doing that, I would 100% agree with you. But as I mentioned in my other comment, it's more about the GOP whipping white people up about "CRT" and how there's this massive increase in crime that we need the cops for, and that message appears to be gaining traction. Fuck the democratic party, of course, this isn't about their success or failure.
You do realize i want to go back to brunch was not a joke right? Biden barely won by engaging a bunch of party animals and whipping them into a frenzy.
They are gone. Litteraly they are at brunch.
The gop has whipped a large section of poor white people into a frenzy and those fuckers love sports.
Bud we were never gonna win by stopping the racists of america from bitching about CRT or whatever other boogeyman. the GOP has been even more braindead and evil before this, it shouldn't matter much for the hope of revolution how invested elderly white conservatives are in GOP BS. Far more people had investments in the Tsarist regime, many in continuing WW1, a not-insignificant amount in the Black Hundreds; how insane the farthest right is, does not detract the revolutionary potential from people with the same amount of melanin. If that was true how did the KKK resurge and Jim Crow was in full effect while CPUSA had its biggest membership and power? If that's not what you are saying, then what are you saying beyond just that racist whites are being racist? Cause trust me, the surge in anti-CRT stuff is not any bit worse than how universally bloodthirsty the american consensus was for murdering Muslims 20 years ago, or towards LGBTQ during Bush's 2nd term. Bush won reelection running on trying to legally block gay marriage constitutionally
Nobody's being "whipped" into anything. Thousands of white workers are on-strike telling their companies to shove offers up their ass, but some stupid culture war bullshit making a shitty Democrat lost means all is lost, because clearly the "revolutionary potential" has to do with whether or not liberals win elections (straight out of the DNC slack channel, God damn)
If people can be manipulated this easily by the GOP, they can be manipulated by a revolutionary force.
Naw, never said that. Electoral outcomes can be useful as a temp check for wider opinions of the people / workers in a community.
Extreme example: if a city elects someone who is openly a member of the klan, that tells you something is fucky. Could be voter suppression or low turnout instead of wider support, but it’s one data point.
For example, we can hazard that the one of the "wider opinions" of Virginia is that Terry McAuliffe sucked and people didn't like him.
oh yah, no doubt there. If being against racism was important to these folks though, they probably would have voted against the GOP or not voted at all even if the other guy was mediocre. Again, temp check and not the end all.
Hating mayos is cool and good. Acting like whiteness is some sort of original sin is Lib bullshit. If whites are completely unreachable, where do you go from there? Best case you're fetishizing the noble Brown saviors, worst case you're just declaring open war on 60% of the population because they were born evil. Not good.
Why do you think I said whites are completely unreachable? They just have a material interest from the “benefits” of racism and because of that many support the systems that maintain apartheid.
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How did you get “blacksploitation and race war” out of “BIPOC are subjected to significantly more systemic oppression than white people and because of that are more likely to fight back”?
But some of us can walk and chew gum At the same time :)
Don’t disagree with ya there, just talking about the hand we’ve been dealt in Amerika!
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Yeah come on, a person can have a bad take without being a wrecker. star_wraith is obviously not a wrecker.
The first time I've been called a wrecker, I feel kinda honored.
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I agree.
Yeah, I didn't see OP was someone I recognized. Still a demonic take straight out of the most cynical DNC operations. Welp, a boring white man lost a close election to another white guy, Mayos must be unreachable.
Can sitemods be wreckers?🤔
This it the hexbear equivalent of "ok Vlad, what time is it in Russia"
I mean, wreckers are a problem, but they typically don't have 15 months of history with 4,000 comments. Doesn't mean I'm immune to a bad take (this site raked me over the coals over my views on shared living spaces), but that doesn't a wrecker make.
Same. I've been dragged before, but my heart is in the right place. I'm just a human trying to do better every day
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Long story, but where I live it seems like every well-off person feels they have to own a house with a bedroom for each kid. And your shamed if you can't provide that for your kids. My point was that I shared a room with my brother growing up and it was fine. My point was no one should feel bad about maybe having their kids share a bedroom, it can even be a positive experience for kids in some cases. Lots of people got upset and pointed out how everyone needs privacy and there are abusive siblings. Which is true, but also isn't really arguing against the point I was making.
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