(It's going to be a bit of a vent post, sorry. Also we probably already discussed this)

How can people be so wrong about so many things all at once ?

The main talking point were that immigration costs too much, will "balkanize" western europe and bring higher crimes.

Do these people not understand that the reason for the higher crimes and for the "cultural" differences are entirely due to the fact that we are not integrating them once they arrive ? An illegal immigrant has two roads: Become a slave Do illegal things (like steal/sell drugs)

And a lot of these people have no way to become legal migrants who get some protection from the state. A person with no protection from the state is someone that can be freely exploited by companies and corporations. Because they can be freely exploited, they can become an enemy to the bigger working class as they create unfair competition in a competition based job economy that has no respect of any values. The real issue is than the system that allows for them to be exploited. If they were legal migrants, they would be able to get legal jobs, they would need to be payed roughly the same and would not be an issue for anyone anymore.

Why can't we just accept them in the country, teach them the language and how the country works to some degree, and then let them exist ? Like, they could get a job, produce for the economy, start a family etc. like everyone else.

I understand that the capitalist class needs to have a scapegoat for all the wrong things they do but, how could this many people fall for something like this ?

Also the governments are now proposing crazy plans like:

Deport every migrant to another country, process the request there and, if they get accepted, bring them back. If they don't get accepted, guess what ?, they still need Ti get them back to the country they applied in because it's like impossible to send them back. Why are we then shipping or flying them to a 3rd country just to wait there ? Shouldn't we get started on integration ? Give them a job so they don't cost anything while they wait ?

Also the number of immigrant is soooo small compared to the population, oh my god why do they talk about them so much ?

Also the people saying we need to help them in their own countries, 99% of the time seems to be the exact same people that are ok exploiting them, they just want to do it far away were they can't see them. So I guess the investment they would bring would not go to things beneficial to the societies of the immigrants but they probably just want to build like cheap manufacturing and prisons.

I guess we should just eat the rich and use that money to finance a better system to handle them that would also be beneficial to the working class (which, as we now but a lot of people don't understand, is most people).

I guess the main thing I would like to know from the community here is: have you guys have found some talking point that actually work on people with this backward opinions ? And also what's the general opinion on immigration on lemmygrad ?