WASHINGTON (TND) — A recent survey found nearly 40% of employers avoid hiring recent college graduates in favor of older employees.
Survey reveals tough job market for Gen Z grads due to employer preferences (TND)
According to Intelligent.com, Gen Z college graduates are struggling with many aspects of professional life.
Their survey of 800 U.S. managers, directors, and executives who are involved in hiring, found these key results:
38% of employers avoid hiring recent college graduates in favor of older employees
1 in 5 employers have had a recent college graduate bring a parent to a job interview
58% say recent college graduates are unprepared for the workforce
Nearly half of employers have had to fire a recent college graduate
Bullshit, they don't want to hire because the economy is in the shitter. Just in 2021, corps were hiring college graduates like crazy.
They are employers. If they say it's because of the economy, it'll fuck up the stonks further because the whole thing is vibes based.
They are known to lie. See Target shoplifting claims which turned out to be bullshit.
Thank you, I'm so glad we have employers telling us the reason why they are not hiring is because they hate zoomers even though they also know zoomers will be an important market to sell their commodities to, which they can't buy without a job.
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Consider the motivations of one internet commenter to lie, then weigh that against the motivations of an entire economic system predicated on finding excuses to underpay your labor force.
Thank goodness we have people willing to organically repeat what companies say with zero analysis, we don't get enough of that in every major media outlet
Probably, yeah, its a survey with no stakes asking people to give unverified confirmation of biases and stereotypes that they likely want to support and proliferate.
Weird to take it without a pillar of salt.
Seems to me that assuming it's a flawed survey for no real reason is a confirmation of biases in and of itself...
You mean, beside the fact that I read almost this exact same survey a decade ago, saying almost the exact same thing about millenials? A thing proven to be untrue by the simple passage of time?
Or beside the long history going back to literal documents from the roman empire of older people calling the younger generation lazy, incompetent, and unfit to fill the shoes of the current "of age" generation? Despite this trend being wrong each and every time?
Or beside the fact that the survey has literally no way to back up its data as more than nonsense hearsay, and trusting it at all is inherently questionable?
Yeah man, Im the one with biases. Surely. No other explanation.
As opposed to assuming it's flawless, which is the Smart and Unbiased thing to do
It's impossible to create a survey that transmits people's actual thoughts directly to you. Every single survey, ever, has flaws and biases. The game is figuring out the bias, how significant it is, and if you can get anything useful out of the results.
Let’s stop this idiotic hazing ritual. 15 years ago I was a recent grad and people were saying similar stuff. These attitudes kept people my age out of many workplaces. It was shortsighted.
I was rejected many times before I got my first job, and managers in my first roles used my age against me a lot, especially when I didn’t stay in my lane. Finally a company removed my leash and treated me as an opportunity rather than a threat, and they got a big return on that investment, but it took years to find a place like that.
We were acquired and I’m doing other stuff now, but when I see my products in the wild, I sometimes wonder about all those hiring managers who couldn’t see past my age. Did they ever learn that unreplaceable means unpromotable? Did they ever learn to have a bench? What would we have built together if they weren’t so afraid of change?
Of course this is just one story, and profit isn’t a proper motive for doing what’s right. But those who don’t care that ageism is bad for society should at least consider that it’s bad for business and their careers.
The thing is people come and go through this phase of life relatively briefly. Then it's not their problem anymore. Nobody is in it long enough to care to change it.
Maybe so, but if our generation knows what it’s like to find the ladders pulled up, and we don’t care enough to put them back for the younger people behind us, who will?
1 in 5 employers have had a recent college graduate bring a parent to a job interview
Who the hell does that? Even by highschool kids should be sorting out their life affairs independent of their parents.
Though the reason behind recent graduates getting looked over is simple. There are a lot of people on the job market with experience, especially in industries like tech with the tech bubble bursting (probably the worst time to graduate in tech is now), so recent graduates have to compete with experienced workers. And the experienced worker will win almost every time. Similar happened after 2008 to recent millenial graduates, it's when the whole "millenials are lazy/immature" thing kicked off. It's seems to be a cycle. In a decades time/when the next major global economic event takes place, experienced Gen Z workers will be getting all the job offers, and the next generation to graduate will get the short end of the stick.
The "1 in 5" probably makes it sound way more prevalent than it actually is.
- Say you have 5 companies that interviewed 200 people each in the recent past
- 1 candidate had a parent come to their interview (which could mean "driving them to the interview and waiting in the lobby," which is still weird but nowhere near the connotation of "sat in and listened to interview questions")
- 1 in 5 companies will report they've had a parent come to an interview, even though 0.1% of candidates brought a parent
It is a sad fact that for-profit universities and colleges sometimes hand out degrees like candy, making them not worth the paper they are printed on. In essence they trade on their past reputations, hoping that nobody will notice. Well, people noticed. Students, after they start interviewing, often BEG their professors to actually teach them what they need to know. But they cannot, b/c, and I cannot state this hard enough, the purpose of a for-profit education system is not to teach, but to... can you guess what I am about to say... say it with me now... "just make profits".
First career job I had, I was 26, and the next youngest employee was over 50. I had a co-worker who was 70. This is such a fucked state of affairs. We should all be retiring by about 55-60.
There are plenty of millennials looking for work. If I could hire someone with work experience or something with no experience, the choice is obvious.
Additionally, I have heard complaints about gen z from millennials and older. Even in my very very small business, gen z workers have been very unreliable.
The work they do is to make things, they are paid for the things they make. They are paid well above the market rate. Like significantly higher, but they still disappear for a month or two at a time without warning and don’t respond to messages.
There is always a final exam or family emergency. I don’t mind if they take time off, but c’mon. How many finals exams can you have per year.
So due to their lack of communication I often need to find people to replace them. Millennial workers are hard working and produce high quality work. They often over communicate.
So this is my perspective on the issue.
I do have some very good gen z workers and some bad millennial workers, but that is the exception.
So the millenial workers have had their spirits crushed, backs broken and expectations subverted to the point they're considered "hard workers" now. I still remember when millenials were the ones considered lazy bums. Will only be another decade before gen Z become the "hard workers" and the next generation (I think it's generation alpha) will be the "unreliable" ones. The cycle repeats infinitely under the current mode of production.
There is always a final exam [...] How many finals exams can you have per year.
I mean not every course has the same structure but I had about 12 per year.
