Evidence has finally surfaced from Vaush's own stream that makes it clear that his secret proclivities are just as bad as had previously been implied.Support...
Also it turns out the wanting to fuck horses thing wasn't just a bit.
I have watched Kill la Kill a couple of years ago, at the time I was still a lib, so I really need to watch it again
oh it gets better on a rewatch when you know where it's headed. the politics really pop out at you. if you haven't seen Promare yet, watch it. it's Trigger at their best -- easily my favorite movie.
If you haven't already, I strongly suggest you watch Gurren Lagann.
my friends in college were always talking about it but they made it sound really unappealing by constantly dropping references. you've just reminded me that I've meant to go back and watch it now that I know how good Trigger is, basically always. well, except Darling and the Franxx. I swear to god someone told them to drop the original ending to that show, because "do a literal revolution and kill the people exploiting you" made some suit uncomfortable, as that would have made so much more sense as the ending rather than the...mess... we got.
some stuff in Part 3
ngl, we bounced off part 3 after just a few episodes. neither I nor my wife could stand edgeboy mcedgeface (though, we laughed our asses off when he was like yeah, I'm heading to high school now -- yeah dude, this guy who looks like he's 35 is going to high school, right... but that's been funny consistently throughout the entire series)
Parts 5 onward are a lot more progressive than the previous stuff. Part 5 is just full homoerotic twinks beating the living shit out of each other
yeah, we enjoyed Part 5. we actually liked Part 1 the best of any of them so far because the simplicity made the absurdity much more fun and it did a lot with it's limited run time, without the shitty politics of Part 2. we're considering going back to Part 2 and just straight up rooting for the Pillar Men to win. cause like the only awful shit we've seen them do so far is... kill nazis? which ngl just makes them based. we stopped at "we're leaving to kill people in Mussolini's Italy" (which is extremely "oh... no... don't... stop...") and Joseph was going to ally with the nazis again to stop them. knowing the nazi friend gets murked in Stalingrad only makes it better.
we also accidentally skipped Part 4 because we hit play on season 4 thinking that was Part 4 and eventually realized something was wrong, only to go meh, this is pretty good. the extremely queer men literally everywhere and the extremely homoerotic posing/fights validated that choice. I fucking lost it every time Giorno posed with his stand, hands on its hips like it was going to rail him. so we might go back for Part 4 at some point.
hell, in part 6 he wanted the protagonist to be a lesbian, but he was barred from doing that.
that's extremely disappointing. we're only a few episodes in but I guess it's extremely on-brand for this show to continue being homoerotic subtextually but continue to not address that blatant subtext.
And the newest part that I haven't read yet might have some gender non-conforming person as one of the main characters from last I saw it too.
I've heard Part 7 has them fighting the US president which sounds fucking lit. we're kinda just holding out hope that that's one that makes us go from "yeah, this is good I guess" to obsessive the way everyone else seems to be. I feel like one of the reasons we liked 1 better than 5 was just the length of the latter, though. like 5 had the objectively better story but it dragged on for too long. though, I fucking love One Piece so that's some real fucking hypocrisy lmao.
actually, now that we got live action OP, maybe we'll get a live action Jojos. that would be fucking hilarious if done with the same kind of love and dedication. what a truly bizarre prospect, a live action bizarre adventure.
I highly suggest you don't use the official subs as there's a lot of censorship of names because Araki literally uses band and song names for stands lmao.
we noticed this when the subs turned on while we were watching the dub (Jellyfin has... issues... sometimes) and how much better the naming was in the dub. renaming "the Sex Pistols" to "6 bullets" has got to be a crime of some kind.
Also, if you're interested I suggest watching videos about him and about JoJo in general, it helps put a lot of his decisions into perspective.
I'd love reccs for good video essays about it. I tried searching for videos about specific Parts but I just got the usual "here's why you should watch..." type videos, which are really shallow and don't get into the deeper kinds of analysis that normally helps me process my own thoughts and feelings about what I just saw. also "I didn't understand this so it's a plothole" really gets my goat. like, dude, it's clearly spelled out and it's clearly spelled out why he couldn't do XYZ in that circumstance -- you're a video essayist, would it kill you to take notes? spoilers also don't affect my ability to enjoy things. if anything they help cause I'm way too ADHD and it's helpful to have some context on where I'm at in a story and which details are relevant/irrelevant.
JoJo does have it's fair share of issues, but I think it is absolutely fenomenal! It a 100% helped destroy my, at the time, homophobic views.
hahaha, I believe it. this show is nothing, if not extremely homoerotic. and it probably helps that the extremely not gay men are being extremely not gay good guys, instead of just the villains like a lot of other 90s-00s media. someone on reddit got into it with me about whether or not Ursula in the Little Mermaid was gay/trans coded and so I'm super aware that it's possible to miss the barely subtextual text (actually, sorry, I just got mad about this all over again... honey, what??) but I can see how it helps a lot if you're paying any attention at all.
if you haven’t seen Promare yet, watch it. it’s Trigger at their best – easily my favorite movie.
I've watched Promare too, it's great! It pays homage to Gurren Lagann a few times in the movie, specially towards the end. The only criticism I have is that after watching both Gurren Lagann and Kill la Kill it became a bit predictable what was gonna happen, but great movie nonetheless.
my friends in college were always talking about it but they made it sound really unappealing by constantly dropping references. you’ve just reminded me that I’ve meant to go back and watch it now that I know how good Trigger is, basically always. well, except Darling and the Franxx. I swear to god someone told them to drop the original ending to that show, because “do a literal revolution and kill the people exploiting you” made some suit uncomfortable, as that would have made so much more sense as the ending rather than the…mess… we got.
I'm on the opposite end, I'm the one that annoys people about it constantly lol. Also I don't want to oversell it, so I'll say that Gurren Lagann have some reactionary stuff there too, specially in the first half, but overall for me it's easily Trigger's team best work to this day. Also, I've watched Darling in the Franxx when it was airing, there was so much potential it's criminal it ended how it did.
ngl, we bounced off part 3 after just a few episodes.
A lot of people seem to do that, and I can see why, it also gets very repetitive really quickly. I never had a problem watching it, aside from it being a bit to long, tho I'll also say that part 3's lows are really low compared to the rest of the series. Since you said below that you don't mind spoilers I'll throw a few stuff here and there.
If you eventually get back to it I think it's worth for DIO's bisexual ass alone (and Joseph's gay sex joke scene that is hilarious). The way he is portrayed and shown throughout the whole part is extremely interesting, and the final battle is easily one of my favorites. It's also good for the followup in part 6's story line with Pucci, a priest that is obviously gay for him. It's also interesting how DIO is not only a recurring central point to the series but also developed even when he is not present. There's also an old OVA that adapts part 3 if you want to at least see what it is about without committing to the anime adaptation. I never got to actually see it, but everyone likes it, so it's probably good.
that’s extremely disappointing. we’re only a few episodes in but I guess it’s extremely on-brand for this show to continue being homoerotic subtextually but continue to not address that blatant subtext.
It looks like I was wrong about that, he wasn't barred from doing it, that came from a rumor I heard long ago, there's these 2 videos that talk about it: The first one has the outdated info, but it adds some context about part 6, and the second one addresses what actually happened, but yeah it is still quite disappointing. Also, for some reason the anime adaptation cuts a part on the beginning where Jolyne notices a trans prisoner. I don't think it's done in a disrespectful way in the manga at all, it's literally her just noticing and acknowledging them, so it's just weird that it was cut.
I’ve heard Part 7 has them fighting the US president which sounds fucking lit. we’re kinda just holding out hope that that’s one that makes us go from “yeah, this is good I guess” to obsessive the way everyone else seems to be.
I was talking about part 9 there, where Dragona is the sibling of the main character and might be trans from what I seen when it launched, but I didn't look into it after that, so it's possible I'm wrong. But yep, the villain of part 7 is the actual president of the US lmao. The politics are much better there. Part 7 is long as hell, but it is without a shadow of a doubt the de facto best part, be it in setting, characters, story line and politics.
like 5 had the objectively better story but it dragged on for too long. though, I fucking love One Piece so that’s some real fucking hypocrisy lmao.
Part 5 length in the anime doesn't really bother me, although the manga has worse pacing, but I get what you're saying, it could definitely be a little shorter. Also, fun fact, JoJo's actually longer than One Piece lol, it just doesn't have the atrocious pacing of the anime.
actually, now that we got live action OP, maybe we’ll get a live action Jojos. that would be fucking hilarious if done with the same kind of love and dedication. what a truly bizarre prospect, a live action bizarre adventure.
There is actually a live action Part 4 JoJo movie, but I never saw it. Heard it is kinda ok. Would be cool to have an adaptation like that, but I don't see it happening before the part 7 anime.
I’d love reccs for good video essays about it. I tried searching for videos about specific Parts but I just got the usual “here’s why you should watch…” type videos, which are really shallow and don’t get into the deeper kinds of analysis that normally helps me process my own thoughts and feelings about what I just saw.
Yeah, I just saw the shithole that is searching for JoJo on youtube nowadays, it was better 4-6 years ago, both in results and actual content, and a lot of it aged not very well it seems. I also found out that there's actually not many video essays about JoJo's, and looking back it makes sense, most of the info is scattered around in multiple short videos of character analysis and what not. I guess it makes sense given how many characters and how many almost self-contained stories there are in the series.
I don't really know any good separate part analysis unfortunately, you'll mostly find videos talking about specific events, plotlines and characters. Here's a few videos I think are interesting:
How Hirohiko Araki Makes a Character - There's quite a bit of liberal thinking in here, but it's good to see Araki's process and values in writing. I would skip to the provided timestamp when he's about to talk about part 7 because it's literally spoilers about the end of the story, but he basically talks about how Johnny is a morally grey character that doesn't follow the structures of past protagonists.
The Point of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure [Restored Edition] - This one is a look into the whole of JoJo's, before part 7. There's heavy spoilers for everything, but it's genuinely a great view of what the series is. It's much more hopeful and collective thought oriented than I expected. It's well worth a look.
Music's Influence in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - This one shows how music heavily influences the writing in the series, I think he kinda stretches stuff a bit in this video, but the overall message is correct.
oh it gets better on a rewatch when you know where it's headed. the politics really pop out at you. if you haven't seen Promare yet, watch it. it's Trigger at their best -- easily my favorite movie.
my friends in college were always talking about it but they made it sound really unappealing by constantly dropping references. you've just reminded me that I've meant to go back and watch it now that I know how good Trigger is, basically always. well, except Darling and the Franxx. I swear to god someone told them to drop the original ending to that show, because "do a literal revolution and kill the people exploiting you" made some suit uncomfortable, as that would have made so much more sense as the ending rather than the...mess... we got.
ngl, we bounced off part 3 after just a few episodes. neither I nor my wife could stand edgeboy mcedgeface (though, we laughed our asses off when he was like yeah, I'm heading to high school now -- yeah dude, this guy who looks like he's 35 is going to high school, right... but that's been funny consistently throughout the entire series)
yeah, we enjoyed Part 5. we actually liked Part 1 the best of any of them so far because the simplicity made the absurdity much more fun and it did a lot with it's limited run time, without the shitty politics of Part 2. we're considering going back to Part 2 and just straight up rooting for the Pillar Men to win. cause like the only awful shit we've seen them do so far is... kill nazis? which ngl just makes them based. we stopped at "we're leaving to kill people in Mussolini's Italy" (which is extremely "oh... no... don't... stop...") and Joseph was going to ally with the nazis again to stop them. knowing the nazi friend gets murked in Stalingrad only makes it better.
we also accidentally skipped Part 4 because we hit play on season 4 thinking that was Part 4 and eventually realized something was wrong, only to go meh, this is pretty good. the extremely queer men literally everywhere and the extremely homoerotic posing/fights validated that choice. I fucking lost it every time Giorno posed with his stand, hands on its hips like it was going to rail him. so we might go back for Part 4 at some point.
that's extremely disappointing. we're only a few episodes in but I guess it's extremely on-brand for this show to continue being homoerotic subtextually but continue to not address that blatant subtext.
I've heard Part 7 has them fighting the US president which sounds fucking lit. we're kinda just holding out hope that that's one that makes us go from "yeah, this is good I guess" to obsessive the way everyone else seems to be. I feel like one of the reasons we liked 1 better than 5 was just the length of the latter, though. like 5 had the objectively better story but it dragged on for too long. though, I fucking love One Piece so that's some real fucking hypocrisy lmao.
actually, now that we got live action OP, maybe we'll get a live action Jojos. that would be fucking hilarious if done with the same kind of love and dedication. what a truly bizarre prospect, a live action bizarre adventure.
we noticed this when the subs turned on while we were watching the dub (Jellyfin has... issues... sometimes) and how much better the naming was in the dub. renaming "the Sex Pistols" to "6 bullets" has got to be a crime of some kind.
I'd love reccs for good video essays about it. I tried searching for videos about specific Parts but I just got the usual "here's why you should watch..." type videos, which are really shallow and don't get into the deeper kinds of analysis that normally helps me process my own thoughts and feelings about what I just saw. also "I didn't understand this so it's a plothole" really gets my goat. like, dude, it's clearly spelled out and it's clearly spelled out why he couldn't do XYZ in that circumstance -- you're a video essayist, would it kill you to take notes? spoilers also don't affect my ability to enjoy things. if anything they help cause I'm way too ADHD and it's helpful to have some context on where I'm at in a story and which details are relevant/irrelevant.
hahaha, I believe it. this show is nothing, if not extremely homoerotic. and it probably helps that the extremely not gay men are being extremely not gay good guys, instead of just the villains like a lot of other 90s-00s media. someone on reddit got into it with me about whether or not Ursula in the Little Mermaid was gay/trans coded and so I'm super aware that it's possible to miss the barely subtextual text (actually, sorry, I just got mad about this all over again... honey, what??) but I can see how it helps a lot if you're paying any attention at all.
I've watched Promare too, it's great! It pays homage to Gurren Lagann a few times in the movie, specially towards the end. The only criticism I have is that after watching both Gurren Lagann and Kill la Kill it became a bit predictable what was gonna happen, but great movie nonetheless.
I'm on the opposite end, I'm the one that annoys people about it constantly lol. Also I don't want to oversell it, so I'll say that Gurren Lagann have some reactionary stuff there too, specially in the first half, but overall for me it's easily Trigger's team best work to this day. Also, I've watched Darling in the Franxx when it was airing, there was so much potential it's criminal it ended how it did.
A lot of people seem to do that, and I can see why, it also gets very repetitive really quickly. I never had a problem watching it, aside from it being a bit to long, tho I'll also say that part 3's lows are really low compared to the rest of the series. Since you said below that you don't mind spoilers I'll throw a few stuff here and there.
If you eventually get back to it I think it's worth for DIO's bisexual ass alone (and Joseph's gay sex joke scene that is hilarious). The way he is portrayed and shown throughout the whole part is extremely interesting, and the final battle is easily one of my favorites. It's also good for the followup in part 6's story line with Pucci, a priest that is obviously gay for him. It's also interesting how DIO is not only a recurring central point to the series but also developed even when he is not present. There's also an old OVA that adapts part 3 if you want to at least see what it is about without committing to the anime adaptation. I never got to actually see it, but everyone likes it, so it's probably good.
It looks like I was wrong about that, he wasn't barred from doing it, that came from a rumor I heard long ago, there's these 2 videos that talk about it: The first one has the outdated info, but it adds some context about part 6, and the second one addresses what actually happened, but yeah it is still quite disappointing. Also, for some reason the anime adaptation cuts a part on the beginning where Jolyne notices a trans prisoner. I don't think it's done in a disrespectful way in the manga at all, it's literally her just noticing and acknowledging them, so it's just weird that it was cut.
I was talking about part 9 there, where Dragona is the sibling of the main character and might be trans from what I seen when it launched, but I didn't look into it after that, so it's possible I'm wrong. But yep, the villain of part 7 is the actual president of the US lmao. The politics are much better there. Part 7 is long as hell, but it is without a shadow of a doubt the de facto best part, be it in setting, characters, story line and politics.
Part 5 length in the anime doesn't really bother me, although the manga has worse pacing, but I get what you're saying, it could definitely be a little shorter. Also, fun fact, JoJo's actually longer than One Piece lol, it just doesn't have the atrocious pacing of the anime.
There is actually a live action Part 4 JoJo movie, but I never saw it. Heard it is kinda ok. Would be cool to have an adaptation like that, but I don't see it happening before the part 7 anime.
Yeah, I just saw the shithole that is searching for JoJo on youtube nowadays, it was better 4-6 years ago, both in results and actual content, and a lot of it aged not very well it seems. I also found out that there's actually not many video essays about JoJo's, and looking back it makes sense, most of the info is scattered around in multiple short videos of character analysis and what not. I guess it makes sense given how many characters and how many almost self-contained stories there are in the series.
I don't really know any good separate part analysis unfortunately, you'll mostly find videos talking about specific events, plotlines and characters. Here's a few videos I think are interesting:
How Hirohiko Araki Makes a Character - There's quite a bit of liberal thinking in here, but it's good to see Araki's process and values in writing. I would skip to the provided timestamp when he's about to talk about part 7 because it's literally spoilers about the end of the story, but he basically talks about how Johnny is a morally grey character that doesn't follow the structures of past protagonists.
The Genius Of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - Great overall look on JoJo's over the years and how it evolved.
The Point of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure [Restored Edition] - This one is a look into the whole of JoJo's, before part 7. There's heavy spoilers for everything, but it's genuinely a great view of what the series is. It's much more hopeful and collective thought oriented than I expected. It's well worth a look.
Appreciate Squalo and Tiziano (Clash and Talking Head) - This a short character analysis of the gay antagonist couple in part 5.
Music's Influence in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - This one shows how music heavily influences the writing in the series, I think he kinda stretches stuff a bit in this video, but the overall message is correct.
Bizarre Style: Fashion In Jojo - This talks about the fashion inspirations that Araki took over the years.
The Artistic Evolution of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - Evolution of the art in JoJo's, primarily in the manga.
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