• lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml
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    5 months ago

    The only problem is that the overlap between pro-science and hyper-liberalism is fucking scary.

    Very understandable phenomenon. We live in an age where science is depicted as objective knowledge that carries society to greatness, and not as a method of always trying to prove yourself wrong so that you map a practical understanding of a topic.

    So of course any "sciEnCe, Bi**Ch!" genius out there whose understanding of science is solely based on sensationalist vulgarisation and pseudo-brainy TV shows is going to have this absolute trust in imperialists countries since they have "the most science" so they must be right about everything

    And the worst is of course actual scientists who treat politics as a math problem because they think social science is just too easy for them and they can just figure it all out, like the german physicist lady on YouTube

    • OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml
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      5 months ago

      And the worst is of course actual scientists who treat politics as a math problem because they think social science is just too easy for them and they can just figure it all out, like the german physicist lady on YouTube

      This is it right here. Scientists are usually the most uninformed politically nowadays (because 100 years ago, it used to be scientists were overwhelmingly political with many being Marxists). There's various reasons for it besides what you mentioned I think:

      1. The zeitgeist around every person in Western societies is that liberal democracy is the best, since it supposingly provides maximum freedom to everybody. As a result, scientists think that this is obviously the most logical choice to support. In addition, they think its promises of free expression are required for scientific progress to manifest.

      2. Capitalism has seeped deep into science, and currently careers are made and broken on the ability to gather funds for projects. Capitalists control science essentially. Therefore, the scientists who are promoted to acclaim, are the ones who are most aligned with the capitalists ideologically.

      3. University science departments everywhere in the West have consciously made efforts to ban serious political thought from their campuses, usually in round-about ways. As a result, they've removed a lot of the professors who would be political enough to influence their students. I've seen this happen during my studies and my short time working for a university a few years ago

    • knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml
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      5 months ago

      actual scientists who treat politics as a math problem because they think social science is just too easy for them and they can just figure it all out, like the german physicist lady on YouTube

      Germans have a word for people like her: fachididot. Someone who is highly educated in one field, and applies only this narrow field of expertise to problems outside of that field, therefore missing critical parts of the problem and potential solution which do not stem from their own expertise.

      • lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml
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        5 months ago

        So cool, I need to remember this one. If there's one thing I like about Germany its the language. It's no wonder why German philosophy is so important for Western philosophy, their language allow them to naturally form cool concepts. English is also nice but not as elegant imo. I'm pretty jealous because French, my native tongue, is lame as f for new words. We even have a state sponsored institution full of monarchists who try to police our language to prevent us from copying English words since trying to translate them produces absolutely ridiculous results

        • fox [comrade/them]
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          5 months ago

          German isn't particularly special for being able to form natural compound words like that. Every Germanic language can do it as well as Greenlandic, just off the top of my head, but Germany has a longer history of schools of philosophy

            • fox [comrade/them]
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              5 months ago

              Yeah, it's called linguistic compounding. English is the odd one out here in the Germanic family since all of the others let you jam nouns together to create more specific nouns. You can do it in a lot of Asian languages too, and north American indigenous languages. Finnish and Russian.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      And the worst is of course actual scientists who treat politics as a math problem because they think social science is just too easy for them and they can just figure it all out, like the german physicist lady on YouTube

      A friend of mine works as in-house legal for a Fintech company. She tells me that every 6 months or so she'll be asked to review one of the tech guys' "revolutionary streamlined process" and tell him "congratulations, you've invented tax evasion."

    • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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      5 months ago

      Very understandable phenomenon. We live in an age where science is depicted as objective knowledge that carries society to greatness, and not as a method of always trying to prove yourself wrong so that you map a practical understanding of a topic.

      Lack of materialism scream from those types. They might stopped believing in deity figures, but they just found themselves a new idol.

      And the worst is of course actual scientists who treat politics as a math problem because they think social science is just too easy for them and they can just figure it all out, like the german physicist lady on YouTube

      For some reason this reminded me of Asimov's Foundation and the Seldon plan: let's translate social sciences to a math and predict a future with hard science. Best of all, it was nothing of sorts, even regardless of how that's impossible, in universe they straight up relied on magic and the actual plan was "mind control neobarbarians for 1000 years and prepare them for the enlightened rule of psychic ubermensch aristocracy".