This is straight up shit I'd expect from a fantasy world made by the Third Reich lmao

  • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    I googled 'nits make lice gygax' and found some posts of his; let's just say I'm glad he kicked the bucket because dear God that's some insane thinking.

    Aside from his paladins sounding like they're based on Judge Dredd (a tyrannical one too, as early Judge Dredd didn't kill villains but did everything to capture them alive for trial) he really does actually see killing the children of your enemies as justifiable:

    Chivington might have been quoted as saying "nits make lice," but he is certainly not the first one to make such an observation as it is an observable fact. If you have read the account of wooden Leg, a warrior of the Cheyenne tribe that fought against Custer et al., he dispassionately noted killing an enemy squaw for the reason in question.

    I don't care if you can point to a native American (or any member of a minority) and be like 'look, they did it too!', it's still insane and vile, the heck is wrong with these people?

    But then of course, the real problem is they've envisioned world with actual evil races to justify what are war crimes in the real world (the real world being where they refer to women and children of the opposing side as 'nits make lice' and that it's an observable fact).

    People also run to the cliched argument of 'lawful good doesn't mean lawful nice or lawful stupid'; right, but apparently 'lawful good' does seem to mean lawful tyranny. Not being a war criminal doesn't mean you're being lawful nice or lawful stupid. There's a guy on that page who, while discussing with Gygax on the forums, mentions he comes up with contrived reasons for why everything works out okay anyway because he's clearly trying to avoid intellectually confronting the crazy he's talking to. He says when the party captures villains, they pull out secret weapons to justify just flat out killing them rather than taking prisoners, and that evil tribes don't have any children there.

    Damn libs. Probably the sort who think Kissinger 'made difficult choices'.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Wait, posts? Like forum posts? I had thought Gygax was maybe saying this stuff in the late 1970s when he had more cocaine than braincells. Was he still being a racist buffoon 20 to 30 years later? Right up to his death in 2008?

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Thermian arguments act like fictional worlds are real parallel universes instead of places designed with intent

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      I don’t care if you can point to a native American (or any member of a minority) and be like ‘look, they did it too!’, it’s still insane and vile, the heck is wrong with these people?

      Reactionaries completely fail to understand leftist arguments grounded in historical context or nuance so they think the left position is "everything bad is exclusively done by white people and nothing non-white people do is bad"

      • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Seems like he may have spread the brain worms to his son, as looking up 'gygax racist' brings up a story about his son saying something offensive in regards to (yet again) native Americans. Seems like the gygax household have probably been brought up on tales of frontiersmen and cowboys fighting off the indigenous population (probably also grew up on an unhealthy diet of John Wayne).