The failed presidential candidate and Republican politician John McCain was literally on the ground in Ukraine rallying supporters for the coup. It was extremely obvious. The there was also the Nuland "fuck the EU" leaked phone call.
Imagine if some senior Chinese politician showed up in Mexico and started rallying supporters for an anti-USA coup. US citizens, liberals, conservatives, would lose their minds. Yet they do that in Ukraine, and it's fine. Biggest hypocrites on earth.
But have you considered that when the west does this stuff it's good and wholesome because it's done in the name of freedom and democracy.
Ahh damn you got me there! The more US backed coups, the more democratic of course! 🦅🦅🦅🦅🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
It happens so often that libs have internalized it as a normal thing lol
The fun part about being called a conspiracy theorist by liberals is that contrary to tinfoil hat reactionaries we often get to see the state boast about what it did after some time
The less fun part is seeing that liberals never change their views when it happens
Indeed, pretty much everything we've been saying about the war in Ukraine from the start has now been admitted by the western media. Yet, liberals are simply unable to walk back their positions and admit being wrong.
Lets be honest, Libs absolutely know what the US gov does and they support it.
I'm more inclined to consider the average human to be a well intentioned idiot but I totally vibe with your take
it'll never not be funny to point out how they share that similarity with the CHUDs they consider themselves superior to. Ive played mad-libs with some of their diatribes to hilarious effect.
https://archive.is/20240226201210/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/world/europe/cia-ukraine-intelligence-russia-war.html
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You mean to tell me that I just had a whole nother lemmy.ml MB/FC struggle session with some lib over the Grayzone’s coverage of the coup, while The Paper of Record was admitting it?
This is why I've started hunting out mainstream sources for everything. Any time you present anything that's not mediabias approved, they just derail the whole discussion making it about the source. Luckly, mainstream media does have a lot of the same information, just takes them a bit longer to get there and you have to do more hinting up front.
Although, as you've seen recently, you can give them a mainstream western source and they'll still call it Russian propaganda if it disagrees with them.
Especially wild with NYT which is basically official rag of Dem party
Lol gonna save this for later. Turns out the tankies were right, once again!
Someone told me about the Curse of Cassandra. Apparently tankies suffer from this curse.
thank you comrade
Honestly kinda wild to see admitted so blatantly