I'm not going to link it, because its worthless, but I take back anything nice Ive ever said about these unsufferable, useless dweebs. Join the PSL, holy shit, the DSA national org is complete dogshit.

      • notthenameiwant [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Ruthless pragmatism is pointless, I guess. Let's just throw the largest left org in recent memory to the wolves.

        • Commander_Data [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          This is especially funny considering the video to which I'm referring had a speaker who explicitly mentuoned how disappointing the pragmatism of the Obama years was to progressives. And then the flowing speakers went on to give examples of how the DSA needed a pragmatic approach to build socialism.

        • Commander_Data [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          Pointing out that this whole shitshow in Ukraine is clearly the result of American/NATO dirty tricks going tits up is not giving "critical support" to Russia.

            • Commander_Data [she/her]
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              3 years ago

              Maybe we expect more from a socialist org than a capitalist nation-state.

                • Commander_Data [she/her]
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                  3 years ago

                  They aren't doing much of anything these days. M4A is dead, and this pivot to reformism seems to me like it's been fully captured by progressive dems. I see nothing socialist about the current direction of the org. To me that's a material difference, not an ideological one, but ive wasted enough effort already and don't feel the need to continue this any firther. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. If you feel like the DSA is a valuable use of your time then anything that I say shouldn't dissuade you from continuing your efforts. For me, that video was the end of any interest I had in the organization.