I have been using Linux for about 5 years and although I don't consider that I know much, I know enough to fix my own problems and that's usually enough for me.
Since Plasma 6 was announced I wanted to test something other than XFCE, Gnome or Plasma (or any DE) so I give it a try with ArcoLinuxD i3wm and is increible the amount of things I learn the 'hard way' because there was no GUI to do the things I want to do, or maybe I was too lazy to do it with the terminal since there is always the 'easy way'.
Things that might be very easy for a lot of people, but I never take the time to learn, like mounting drives, running programs from startup, setting environment variables, creating desktop entries, and a lot of other things I didn't even remember. I even learned to use things that used to give me a headache just looking at it, like Vim, xdg, the Archwiki (that is super useful) and the manpages.
It's ironic because something that started as an experiment is now my daily drive, and now that Plasma 6 has been released, I don't want to leave i3 behind.
It doesn't really matter which distro you use, all hail the Arch wiki!
PS: if you use ddg,
!awis your friend herehow did I not know about !aw? Thanks for the tip, will be very useful
It's nice that Arch is providing an easier installation method, it's counter-productive for many users to have to contend with such detail just to have a functioning system.
Or just never learn linux, use it.
I want to use my OS to do my job; I don't want my OS to be my job.
so I give it a try with ArcoLinuxD i3wm and is increible the amount of things I learn the 'hard way' because there was no GUI to do the things I want to do, or maybe I was too lazy to do it with the terminal since there is always the 'easy way'.
Doing things the "easy way" is not "lazy" but thank you for saying the quiet part out loud. This is why there will never be a "year of the Linux desktop", because it's developers insist on doing everything "the hard way". In an ideal OS you never have to learn to do things the hard way because the easy way works just as well without starting a new career in Linux programming.
Do you understand the terms OP used? Did you even read the post? So, OP was doing things the 'easy way' using GUI tools in Gnome/Plasma/XFCE and is now using CLI tools in a window manager that he chose. Please explain to me how does this lead to Linux devs are mean and you need a CS degree to install a browser on Linux.
Do you understand the terms OP used?
I understood the overarching situation well enough. Maybe you'd like to bring up to speed on exactly what your point is.
So, OP was doing things the 'easy way' using GUI tools in Gnome/Plasma/XFCE and is now using CLI tools in a window manager that he chose.
Yes I understood that.
Please explain to me how does this lead to Linux devs are mean and you need a CS degree to install a browser on Linux.
I can't explain it because you just pulled those statements out of your ass.
Please explain to me how does this lead to Linux devs are mean
I don't think. But the Linux advocators are very mean so that their user can't figure out things themselves and always want people to help them.
and you need a CS degree to install a browser on Linux.
(the last paragraph is the main content)
YOU REALLY NEED!
If not, why there are so many post on bad quality websites like itsfoss, tecmint, etc.. and they have to taught you to use your package manager! They have to a bunch of
apt-get install EEEEEEEEEEEEEdnf install AAAAAAAAAAandsudo .... .... ......(while I want apk, doas, ...)
They expect Linux users to be a completely brainless person that will do everything they are told. Those Linux users learn things hardly with this background. So a CS degree is required.
Do you see that such Linux user always complain about "lack of documentation" when they "try" BSDs? Even FreeBSD (they have a forum)?? The documentation of programs and software doesn't hold your hand and teach you on installing something. This effectively render such Linux user unusable, hang.
This is why there will never be a “year of the Linux desktop”
They dislike this comment just because of this. This statement is correct.
Linux kernel's code quality is not comparable to any BSD's kernel. GNU userland is not as clean as BSD's userland so Chimera Linux existed.
because it’s developers insist on doing everything “the hard way”
true, true
I'm so lucky that WINE and virtualbox is so hard on "newbie distros" that I would never use windows application on linux.
When I switch to BSD I always read man pages and find the docs to resolve my problems. Never did that on Linux.
In an ideal OS you never have to learn to do things the hard way because the easy way works just as well without starting a new career in Linux programming.
Do you think FreeBSD and OpenBSD already met this requirement :)?
This was exactly my experience when I switched from XFCE4 to Hyprland. Now I much rather do everything in the terminal. Except for partitioning drives and auto mounting them. I switch to gnome to do that in GUI.
Using nixos I can just rebuild with gnome instead of hyprland. Do what I need. Then rebuild back to hyprland. And gnome is not installed anymore. So I get to use GUI without the bloat of having a GUI installed all the time.
Yeah, you learned the tiny bits and pieces of a desktop that you took for granted before. Like trays, notifications, locking, screen saver, etc. Just for the learning experience, any daily driving linux users should at least try to setup a fairly functional desktop environment using bare WMs as the base.
