Anyone who seeks to recreate what America "once was" will only succeed in recreating the same ills. Some symbols should be left to die. </lonesomeroad>
They are repeating the mistakes of the past, trying to recreate a romantic idea that never existed
Better than Legion ideologically, but that is a low bar. NCR is basically just libs wanting to re-establish the USA of old, so they are still evil.
Personal preference is kill House and take over using Yes Man. At least this way I can headcanon a good future.
Personal preference is kill House and take over using Yes Man. At least this way I can headcanon a good future.
This is basically the only way my NV runs end. I genuinely cannot stand even the idea of completing for the other three factions.
Doesn’t a Yes Man ending just lead to a wasteland in total anarchy with the courier noping out?
That hardly feels better then the NCR. I guess it allows someone to build something new, but it’s still total anarchy.
Yes Man ending will certainly be anarchic (as in absence of a state), but how much of it will be violent chaos as implied with "total anarchy" depends largely on Courier actions (or inaction). In what is imo the best case scenario for Mojave;
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- NCR and Legion are removed as threats.
- Internal threats are neutralized (BoS can be even sent to Lost Hills bunker).
- Police force is available (Securiton army, with upgraded OS).
- Energy is available (Helios & Hoover Dam).
- Enclave knowledge and technology is available (Arcade).
- Friendly government in NCR (Hanlon).
- Community with experience in self-organization (Westside).
Unsustainable, with huge environmental problems derived from the return of the capitalist mode of production, such as the drying up of the lakes from the water consumption by Brahmin ranches and soil depletion. Talking to Thomas Hildern or Chief Hanlon illustrates that well.
In fact, their outward expansion is just that - hoping to snag better resources through old school imperialism. It being a model of the dictatorship of the bourgeois with hilarious amounts of corrupt doesn't help either.
The game guide makes the NCR's current state in FNV much more depressing
During President Tandi's presidency, regulations limited the number of cattle head and the acreage of fields that could be owned by a single person. Despite constant pressure from the Stockmen's Association and Republican Farmer's Committee, such regulations loosened only a little so long as Tandi was in office. Following her death, however, they eroded until President Kimball overturned them completely.
The past 12 years has also seen a change in attitudes towards collective welfare. Citizens of the NCR rarely face significant dangers on a daily basis, and survival is an assumption rather than an aspiration. Citizens are far more reluctant to share food and other resources, and the person who provides services free of charge, whether it's something as quotidian as sewing or as rarefied as surgical expertise, are now the exception rather than the rule.
A consequence of these economic and cultural transformations has been the rebirth of wage labor. Whereas one's labor was until recently seen as benefitting and belonging to a collective (whether a family or small town), it has now become a commodity. To earn their keep, many citizens must seek an employer and trade the sweat of their brow for Caps.
By law, the NCR prohibits persecution and discrimination on the basis of gender, ethnicity, sexuality, or religious belief (so long as said religion does not advocate violence). Legal protection of Ghouls and other mutants was added in 2205, though enforcement of these rights has been spotty. For the most part, the NCR's practices live up to its ideals, but there has been some retrenchment since the death of President Tandi. Aaron Kimball's popularity was amplified by a reactionary undercurrent, especially among males, calling out a need for a "strong man" to lead the NCR forward. In the years since Kimball took office, male military officers have been promoted disproportionately to females, and discourse arguing the differences between males and females has reappeared.
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
In new Vegas I kinda liked the followers of the Apocalypse, they seemed the least bad bunch
Except that Edward Sallow was one of them and used the foothold granted to the Followers through their practices to found the Legion.
And Mussolini used to be a self-proclaimed Marxist. Not exactly a condemnation of the whole organization, that one man and a couple of his friends went fash.
Yes, but Mussolini hadn’t been a Marxist for over a decade by the time he took up the mantle of fascism. Sallow was a member of the Followers who used his position and skills to catapult himself into a position of power when he was sent to communicate with the Arizona tribes. If he was not a Follower, he never would have been able to do what he did, plus a decent chunk of followers and Mormons rallied to him during his initial rise to power, such as Graham.
Yeah, I found them the least bad, that fact that they were and victim of a crazy cult leader does not diminish them in my eyes
True, I can agree there. Wish they were a more developed faction.
suck ass. sadly their opponents on new vegas are murderous lunatics so, when u need to choose who to side with, doesn't have that weight of morally ambiguous choice or whatever.
They can like go communist if the 2278 election is gridlock and the workers in the redding state are insufficiently appeased, so I guess they're ok.
is this an old world blues reference? do i finally need to learn how to play hoi4
CPF (Canadian People's Front) splinter states were updated recently. Some of the options are actually decent.
i wish i got it more
Old world blues looks like such a fuckin banger of a time but my brain is too smooth for HOI
It's alright, it's really confusing the first few hours but you'll be encircling like there's no tomorrow in no time at all.
they got ghoul and supermutant rangers which is objectively cool as fuck
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i have never completed the game with the NCR
I don't like how they are white washed. I've discussed this in other threads, but it seems their imperialism is downplayed while the Legion's is amplified. If the game was done from a Marxist perspective both would be pictured as mostly the same, with House being a better option than the two, since he represents the national bourgeoise. But that's not the case. The NCR frequently gets a pass, with the same propagandistic tones that are used to white wash the US. Arguments like "They aren't perfect, but at least they try.". It irks me so much, that I never do NCR victories anymore.
I usually do Mr. House or Independent Vegas endings. But the Independent Vegas is lackluster in my opinion. I wish the courier could invite a faction to join him, depending on his Karma. For instance, a good karma courier could invite the Followers of the Apocalypse so that they can get access to the riches of New Vegas and help the region. A bad karma courier could invite raider factions to join him, and turn New Vegas into a Mad Max dystopian city.
Well, even within a Marxist analysis lens there are material differences between the two. One being an economy sustained and utterly dependent on chattel slavery is huge. Also like all women being in that situation. The NCR is a bourgeois imperial power, but even then it’s not on the same level of evil.
Might be referring to mutations arising from exposure to nuclear radiations.
